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Eryne
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Chilliwack, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 06/26/2012 :  1:18 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
tea lights.

They are cheap, light, burn easily and can be used for light if you don't need a fire.

Plus, if you get scented ones you can attract critters and bears.

Cherry Pirate
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Maple Ridge, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 06/27/2012 :  11:54 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Eryne


Plus, if you get scented ones you can attract critters and bears.



Finally someone who understands my needs. I want my campsite swarming with predators and pests.
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Matt
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Langley, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 06/27/2012 :  12:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by weedWhacker

Not to quibble, but the reason wet wood does not burn, and wet ground impedes fires, is that liquid water cannot be heated above 100 degrees. No matter how fancy your fuel source or how much kindling you add, the firewood or ground will not exceed 100 degrees C until the liquid water has been vaporized. Water does not suffocate a fire - it cools the fuel and prevents thermal outgassing.

Two things that I have found useful:
  • Light the kindling, place the wet wood on top, then hold a butane stove over the wood (with stove unlit). The burning butane can sometimes dry off a thin layer of wood which may be sufficient to get started.

  • Use a different kindling material. Yellow cedar and some hardwoods burn very hot and they can dry off the bulk firewood.






Your logic is way off here.
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Dru
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Climbing, a mountain
Canada

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 Posted - 06/27/2012 :  1:19 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Actually he makes a good point. You can boil water in a paper cup held over a bunsen burner, without the paper cup bursting into flame...
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Matt
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Langley, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 06/27/2012 :  5:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, but that doesn't describe why wet ground impedes fires.
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Aqua Terra
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Surrey Hole, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 06/27/2012 :  6:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sleep on a wet ground vs dry

prother
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Qualicum Beach, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 06/27/2012 :  7:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dru

Actually he makes a good point. You can boil water in a paper cup held over a bunsen burner, without the paper cup bursting into flame...




You can actually boil an egg in a paper bag over an open fire. It's an old Boy Scout trick, requiring much finesse and fire skills, yet can be done. The trick is having the right amount of water, in a well made paper bag, that will hold up from hanging with a stick through it's top. Then, it's just a matter of applying the right amount of heat, for the right amount of time and presto, a boiled egg... or may be 5 minute egg, or maybe a mess. At any rate, it takes some practice.


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Aqua Terra
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Surrey Hole, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 06/27/2012 :  10:15 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If I have time, I will post one of my methods on firestarting after this weekend

Cherry Pirate
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Maple Ridge, BC
Canada

344 Posts

 Posted - 06/27/2012 :  10:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by prother

quote:
Originally posted by Dru

Actually he makes a good point. You can boil water in a paper cup held over a bunsen burner, without the paper cup bursting into flame...




You can actually boil an egg in a paper bag over an open fire. It's an old Boy Scout trick, requiring much finesse and fire skills, yet can be done. The trick is having the right amount of water, in a well made paper bag, that will hold up from hanging with a stick through it's top. Then, it's just a matter of applying the right amount of heat, for the right amount of time and presto, a boiled egg... or may be 5 minute egg, or maybe a mess. At any rate, it takes some practice.






I'm sorry, I'm a bit new, why would I want to hardboil an egg in a paper bag?

"No no honey, turn off that stupid stove and put down that pot: I have a paper bag and boy scout training."

tu
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Burnaby, BC
Canada

1293 Posts

 Posted - 06/27/2012 :  11:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cherry Pirate
I'm sorry, I'm a bit new, why would I want to hardboil an egg in a paper bag?


It's a Boy Scout thing. I mean when I was in it we wore knee-highs and garters. There's lots of strange traditions there.

Cherry Pirate
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Maple Ridge, BC
Canada

344 Posts

 Posted - 06/27/2012 :  11:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tu
It's a Boy Scout thing. I mean when I was in it we wore knee-highs and garters. There's lots of strange traditions there.



I think I probably get where you were coming from. Something about how difficult it was to do this apparently pointless extension of the original use, boiling water in emergency situations, was hilarious to me. I pictured this 12 year old working day and night to be the best paper bag egg boiler in the camp and trying to justify it in his later life.

blackfly
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Squamish
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 Posted - 06/27/2012 :  11:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cherry Pirate

quote:
Originally posted by tu
It's a Boy Scout thing. I mean when I was in it we wore knee-highs and garters. There's lots of strange traditions there.



I think I probably get where you were coming from. Something about how difficult it was to do this apparently pointless extension of the original use, boiling water in emergency situations, was hilarious to me. I pictured this 12 year old working day and night to be the best paper bag egg boiler in the camp and trying to justify it in his later life.



Any kid that can hard boil an egg in a paper bag over the campfire should get the keys to the bus. :D

Cherry Pirate
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Maple Ridge, BC
Canada

344 Posts

 Posted - 06/28/2012 :  08:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by blackfly

Any kid that can hard boil an egg in a paper bag over the campfire should get the keys to the bus. :D



What length of bus are we talking here?
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AcesHigh
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Hope, BC
Canada

7093 Posts

 Posted - 06/28/2012 :  08:10 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aqua Terra

If I have time, I will post one of my methods on firestarting after this weekend


Gun Powder? LOL, whatever the case may be I look forward to it. Don't hurt yourself AT!


You know I look back at the many fun and funny times in the bush camping out, and almost always we'd get in arguements while starting the fire. Eventually it ends up "I'll get the fire going, you go get branches."


Edited by - AcesHigh on 06/28/2012 08:11 AM
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