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Finally stopping that crazy suffering that is ice, climbing to concentrate on great ski tours!
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Posted - 04/09/2012 : 8:50 PM
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Not the camp booties!! No!! I have worn my liners in camp, and didn't like it very much. My liners do have soles, so it's still a possibility. I have overlap liners and they're not great as booties (lack laces) but can work.
I usually carry the one Nalgene w/Parka, but missed having 2L of water ready for the morning. I might still only take one Nalgene.
For the climbing gear, I trimmed quite a bit for most of my trips this winter. My "bail/rap kit" has been left at home this winter, and I will probably leave it out for Columbia. Go down to basic crevasse rescue only.
I wonder how much those kiddie-golf-balls weigh? The bulldogs are only 30g each, but do add up. I'll look into those. Thanks.
As for using ice axes/skis, etc, that can work only if you pack up and move camp all the time. If you leave camp, you need your stuff! |
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Calgary, Alberta
Andorra
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Posted - 04/09/2012 : 9:12 PM
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Originally posted by leimrod
I'm curious, you talk about the weight of the individual items in g's and kg's, but collectively the whole is weighted in lb's.
Is that because the goal of going from 21lbs to 20lbs is actually the even more arbitrary goal of going from 9.53kgs to 9.08kgs 
This is a regular problem with Canadians. We didn't convert to metric all that long ago, and still have very strong ties with the US who don't use it. So most of us grow into a mishmash of odd measures.
Personally, I would measure a room in feet (never metres), but I hike a day in kilometres and metres of elevation gain, and have to do the math to understand anyone quoting miles and feet. I quote outside air temperature in Celcius, but pool and house temperatures in Fahrenheit.
I usually weigh my gear in grams (because it's a smaller simpler unit), but I'd have to check my driver's license to figure out how many kilograms I weigh. I don't know anyone who can tell me their height in metres (but hey, at least we don't use stones).
Yay Canada! |
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Van, BC
Canada
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Posted - 04/09/2012 : 9:32 PM
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You can also switch from the NeoAir All Season pad to the NeoAir XTherm pad, saving 100g and increasing the R value from 4.9 to 5.7.
-Ryan
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North Vancouver, BC
Canada
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Posted - 04/09/2012 : 9:36 PM
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You could also haul ass and do it as a day trip- it's been done before.  |
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Finally stopping that crazy suffering that is ice, climbing to concentrate on great ski tours!
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Posted - 04/09/2012 : 9:43 PM
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Originally posted by Ryan.in.yaletown
You can also switch from the NeoAir All Season pad to the NeoAir XTherm pad, saving 100g and increasing the R value from 4.9 to 5.7.
-Ryan
Thought about it if it's available in time, but the missus might have a bird. Of course, I could "hand down" the All-Season to my daughter and then I'd need a new pad...! |
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Finally stopping that crazy suffering that is ice, climbing to concentrate on great ski tours!
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Posted - 04/09/2012 : 9:47 PM
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Originally posted by noman
You could also haul ass and do it as a day trip- it's been done before.
That's been discussed! |
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Posted - 04/10/2012 : 07:45 AM
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Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 09:47 AM
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Originally posted by johngenx
There is a personal history at work here, and I admit I should not let it come to the surface so easily. Eric and I have been out a few times and are very incompatible partners.
I apologize for my posts about John in this thread. I haven't been feeling good mentally the past few days and exercised very poor judgement. I have difficulty deciding not to post when I am not thinking straight. Its not easy being me sometimes.
John was more than able to keep up with me on our trips and I am fully confident in his abilities. |
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Kootenay Bud
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 7:00 PM
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I never weigh my pack as I have just one of everything so it's not like I can go to my store room and choose another pack, sleeping pad, sleeping bag, or whatever. What I got is what I got. I don't buy anything new until the old thing breaks.
But, after reading this post I was spurred to weigh my pack which is currently ready for a four day traverse across the Bonnington Range. Weighs in at roughly 33 pounds with everything. But, we aren't carrying a tent as there are cabins, and no rope as there is no glacier.
It feels frightfully light to me, not much more than a daypack. I could throw out hut booties, which I am taking as I do not have to carry a tent, and probably overbag and just shiver a bit through the night, but, I've done this traverse four times before and it's an easy trip for me so the luxuries seem reasonable. |
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canine loving, machete-toting bushwhacking lake seeker, Indiana Jones hat-wearing off-road 4x4 guru
Surrey Hole, BC
Canada
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 9:40 PM
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| giving up a LT testicle and donating a Kidney could drop a bit of less needed weight. |
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Maple Ridge, BC
Canada
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Posted - 04/12/2012 : 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by Rachelo
This is a regular problem with Canadians. We didn't convert to metric all that long ago, and still have very strong ties with the US who don't use it. So most of us grow into a mishmash of odd measures.
Yeah I'm the same way. But I think there's more reason to it than just habit. I think lbs and feet produce more obvious categories for smaller weights and lengths/heights than kilograms and centimeters or meters. Meters are too broad a measure for height and usually produce decimals, which are laborious in day to day conversation ("I'm 1.7668 meters tall, grandpa"). Centimeters produce numbers so large it eliminates useful distinctions like those between a 6 foot person and a 5 foot person, the two main categories we use for height.
With kilograms I refer back to the decimal problem. A decimal weight in lbs is an irrelevant amount of weight so I can just round up or down. It is a significant amount of weight in kgs. I think grams are better than ozs in camp gear weight. It drives me crazy doing math on gear listed in ozs.
The thing I don't get, however, is why people older than me hang onto Fahrenheit. I did grow up with fahrenheit and it never made a lick of sense. Why would I care about a scale based on the freezing point of brine? So I know when I can go skate the ocean? Also, miles are ridiculous, to me. I don't have an argument, I just much prefer kms. |
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Lethbridge, Alberta
Canada
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Posted - 04/12/2012 : 2:33 PM
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Tie some string to plastic golf balls with holes and use them for snow-stakes for the tent.
Awright, someone has to ask... were you being serious, Sandy? If so, how would this work? |
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Kootenay Bud
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Posted - 04/12/2012 : 2:51 PM
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Totally. Tie climbing string to the stake out points of your tent, stick the other end through a hole in the golf ball and tie off. Stamp 'em into the snow with your boot. They freeze in solid and are totally bomber. Light, but a bit bulkier than tent pegs.
I always thought it was a Wet Coast thing as I learnt it from friends on one of my first Coast Mountain ski traverses.
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Sardonic sandbagging scoundrel, Cascade Climbers lobotomized spraymeister, space blanket flyer, new millennium vulgarian betaboy and friend to all squids
Climbing, a mountain
Canada
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Posted - 04/12/2012 : 3:24 PM
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Get rid of the Petzl knife and get a $1.99, 20g mini-knife from a truck stop.
Take a lighter sleeping bag. Wear your down jacket in your bag. |
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Ladysmith, BC
Canada
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Posted - 05/01/2012 : 11:06 AM
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| John, have you thought about replacing your pack? Golite Jam (like the one Familyguy has for sale right now) would save you nearly a kilo.... |
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Finally stopping that crazy suffering that is ice, climbing to concentrate on great ski tours!
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Posted - 05/01/2012 : 11:34 AM
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Hadn't thought about a new pack, and it won't happen this trip, but maybe in the future. I'd like to see the GoLite, so I'll try to find someone locally selling them.
As for where I am now, I have my Puma sleeping bag, NeoAir X-Therm, big down parka, 1/3 of a BD Squall tent, 15000cal of food, ice axe, crampons, booties, etc and I'm at a svelte 27.7lbs.
Add 2.2lbs for a liter of water, and I should be right at the 30lb mark, trail-head starting weight. |
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One pound to go!!
