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Mountain Grammar Police
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 Sardonic sandbagging scoundrel, Cascade Climbers lobotomized spraymeister, space blanket flyer, new millennium vulgarian betaboy and friend to all squids
Climbing, a mountain
Canada
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Posted - 08/15/2008 : 3:15 PM
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| I wouldn't complain at all if the headline was "Hiker [or hunter for that matter] shot by bear on Sauk Mountain Trail" |
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Manitoba's misadventurin' bushwhackin', dog sloggin', dehydratin', beer drinkin' biggie - who's eager to peak bag Mt Currie in a dress
Squamish
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Posted - 08/15/2008 : 6:41 PM
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| As tragic as it is, it is still a mistake. And now the boy has to live with it for the rest of his life. There's a chance that some good will come of it. He has a long time to make some amends. |
Edited by - blackfly on 08/15/2008 6:42 PM |
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Posted - 08/16/2008 : 09:27 AM
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Originally posted by robert cramer
Sooooo I take it that any beef or pork you eat, that the animal should be harvested by someone with a knife ? you guys are kinda sadistic or does this just apply to bear hunting ?
Personally when I shoot an animal I like the shot to be well placed so that death is quick and the animal suffers as little as possible.
I think you missed the point...we don't believe in hunting for sport or for the fun of it.....if someone wants to go out and shoot a deer and eat it, I'm fine with that. |
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Posted - 08/16/2008 : 11:36 AM
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I agree with the hunter and knife in a small enclosure with the bear too.
mind u one karate master did kill a grizzly with with bare hands :O |
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Alberta-based choss climbin', flame throwin', rappel lovin', ass talkin' hater who doesn't like "Gumby" for a descriptor
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Posted - 08/16/2008 : 7:08 PM
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Originally posted by littlefrank
This is unconscionable. I’m new to hiking in this area and have hiked a few trials up Hwy 20 this summer. I had no idea they allowed hunting in and around hiking trails, or for that matter vice versa. Nothing I've read in any of the trail guides nor the National Park Service or Forest Service websites gives any warning about encountering camouflaged so-called sportsmen (sportsboys) lying in the woods waiting to ambush a bear, or worse a would be hiker. And there are no sings at the trail heads I’ve visited warning of such hazards. I too feel for both parties in this tragedy. Were I related to either party, I’d seek compensation from those who allow both outdoor activities to take place in the same area.
Why should their be signs? Should you need signs for every hazard that you might encounter on a trail? Compensation....by that you mean you would sue. "Allow both activities to take place in the same area"? So you don't think hikers should be "allowed" to hike in hunting territory then? You must be American. |
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Burnaby, BC
Canada
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Posted - 08/19/2008 : 4:02 PM
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Last weekend, I found a (fired) rifle bullet on the early session of the Skyline Divide Trail (mt Baker hwy area). I am surprise to find bullet on a popular trail like this one.
Is hunting allow in these areas? Does anyone know how to find out which trail is (or not) for hunting in the State?
Lastly, should i report my find to the ranger?
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ALBANY, OR
USA
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Posted - 08/19/2008 : 6:17 PM
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Unless I am hiking in a US National Park, I use the general rule that it could be a hunting area. Some wilderness areas and wildlife refuges do not allow hunting either. If you are concerned, see if there is a website for the area. Many times the site will list whether hunting is an allowed activity. If the area is national forest or BLM land, hunting is pretty much allowed. Seasons vary depending on the type of game so it just isn't wide open, shoot anything that moves.
And no, reporting a spent brass to a ranger is not necessary unless it was in an area that you are certain is closed to shooting. |
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Langley, BC
Canada
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The desert, B.C.
Canada
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Posted - 09/04/2008 : 5:39 PM
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Tragic on both parts.
Obviously the boy was inexperienced, and the proper supervision was not in place.
A child taught to use a rifle is far less likely to accidentally shoot someone, than one who isn't.
Your also far more likely to be killed by a 16 year old joy riding, than shot by a hunter.
I don't think it is a Canadian vrs. American issue either. We hunt here as well. Hiking in the Okanagan during muley season is taking your life in your hands. It's up to the individual to choose where he/she wishes to hike, and just like any other safety issues...weather, trail location, rating ect. You need to do your research, and dress accordingly.
I for one would eat game over Maple Leaf any day  and do so most of the year. |
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West Coast, British Columbia
Canada
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Posted - 10/03/2008 : 10:50 AM
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Never hike in the woods in Washington State. Don't risk your life.
Open space parks are fine I guess... Done it before.... |
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Posted - 05/17/2009 : 8:15 PM
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A little behind in time but:
Monster said: "I have nothing nice to say about Americans and guns. Come to think of it, I dont often have anything nice to say about America at all, they sure are good at killing people though"
Well we in Canada have spent over 1$ BILLION and it is projected to hit 2$ BILLION in tax payers dollars for gun control, remember Bill C-17 in 1977 or Bill C-68 in 1994 for the safety of the Canadian public.
Where is the safety today with all these gang killings?
It was a lot safer back in 1977 or 1994.
The first thing you always hear is "BAN THE HANDGUN'S" do any of you know they have been technically banned since 1934 in Canada?
Not like the U.S.
Flowing-Brook said it best with this:
"This thread has drifted, it's not about those "trigger happy yankies" or those "awkward canadians", it's about common sense. My condolences to all."
Mistakes are made in every aspect of life.......this was one of them
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Hiker shot by bear hunter on Sauk Mountain trail
