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IWM
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North Vancouver, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 05/21/2012 :  7:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply to this posting
May 19 - 20, 2012. We're planning to do the Stein traverse this summer so made an exploratory hike up Lizzie Creek from the Lillooet Lake road over the weekend. Finding the double cairn on the right side up the hill past the point where the old FSR goes off to the right was easy and led across some modestly steep side-hill until dropping back down to the old road. From there we just followed the road with a few small creeklet crossings. After 3 hours past lots of evidence of bears - scat and claw marks on trees - we arrived at the point where the FSR used to cross the creek. The log bridge is solid, if a mite slippery. Picture attached. Fifteen or so minutes past that we hit first snow that was a little tricky to walk on because of the willowy saplings beneath which created a gap and so when the foot went through the crust it tended to drop 2 or 3 feet before finding anything solid. There was a gap with no snow and then, rounding the curve to the right on the last steep ascent to the Lizzie Lake parking area we were on snow the rest of the way. Estimate 2 feet of snow at the parking lot.

Edited by - IWM on 05/21/2012 7:42 PM

noman
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North Vancouver, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 05/21/2012 :  7:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, it's a long approach now that the road is buggered for good. Smart to do a recon. Thanks for the update.

rocker_man1
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Burnaby, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 05/21/2012 :  8:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have been looking into this hike thanks for the update!

sandy
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Kootenay Bud


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 Posted - 05/21/2012 :  9:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is the bridge the one where the old road crosses the east fork of Lizzie Creek? That would make snowline about 2,800 feet? We are off on a ski traverse through that area later this week, a guesstimate of snow line would be helpful.

mad owl woman
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Vancouver, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 05/22/2012 :  12:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for posting this! Did you camp at the parking lot, and roughly how long did it take to get there?

IWM
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North Vancouver, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 05/22/2012 :  10:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sandy - the "bridge" in the photo is, as you say, where the FSR used to cross the East Fork, just upstream a few meters from the confluence of the 2 forks. The snow is at more like 3,800 ft. On Google Earth it looks like the "bridge" is about 2,800 ft and there's no snow at all at that level. The top of the steep incline at approx. 50° 8'31.68"N 122°24'10.62"W had about a foot of snow.

MOW - we camped at the crossing, didn't have the gear or the inclination to camp in the snow at the Lizzie Lake parking lot. There are 2 spots for small tents and we left a lovely bench by the fire pit for you. It took us about 3 hours from the cairns that indicate the start of the trail to the crossing.

sandy
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Kootenay Bud


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 Posted - 05/29/2012 :  7:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just skied Battleship Lakes to Cloudraker. Snowline is between 1225 m and 1375 m. Harsh whacking with skis on packs up to Battleship Lakes.

blackfly
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Manitoba's misadventurin' bushwhackin', dog sloggin', dehydratin', beer drinkin' biggie - who's eager to peak bag Mt Currie in a dress

Squamish
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 Posted - 05/29/2012 :  8:46 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sandy how was the road into Battleship lakes? Drives rideable these days or no?

sandy
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Kootenay Bud


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 Posted - 05/29/2012 :  8:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Helluva thrash. Drove to maybe 700 metres - broke our tow strap pulling a fallen tree off the road only to be stopped in 20 metres by rock slide. The alder on the road is brutal with skis on packs - I was fighting like a wildcat to get through. The thrash through the cutblock until we finally hit snow was similarly nasty. Quite a grunt getting to those lakes this time of year.

blackfly
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Squamish
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 Posted - 05/29/2012 :  9:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It was getting ugly about 5 years ago, I guess nobody has done any maintenance to it. A few times we were able to drive right below the trailhead to the lakes, with some boulder clearing and good spotting.

blackfly
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Manitoba's misadventurin' bushwhackin', dog sloggin', dehydratin', beer drinkin' biggie - who's eager to peak bag Mt Currie in a dress

Squamish
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 Posted - 05/29/2012 :  9:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Battleship lakes are beautiful though.

Sorry to derail your thread, IWM.
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Aqua Terra
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Surrey Hole, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 05/29/2012 :  11:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
any updates on the same subject are likely highly appreciated

Ryl
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Burnaby
Canada

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 Posted - 05/30/2012 :  09:01 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Figure it should be clear in there by August long? A broken ankle and just too damn much lingering snow cancelled our stein plans last summer, hoping everything goes smoothly this time around.

sandy
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Kootenay Bud


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 Posted - 05/30/2012 :  5:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

This is how the road looks in the good parts - very fun to carry skis through.

I am not sure where the Stein traverse actually goes, but it seems that it may be less painful to access Lizzie Lake area via the Cloudraker spur off Rogers Creek FSR. Rogers Creek is in good shape as a mining operation is working up there, and the Cloudraker spur is drivable reasonably high. From there, bushwack up to the height of land and be just above and south of Lizzie Lake. Seems preferable to a long walk on the old Lizzie Lake Road.
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Ryan.in.yaletown
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Van, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 05/30/2012 :  6:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sandy


This is how the road looks in the good parts - very fun to carry skis through.

I am not sure where the Stein traverse actually goes, but it seems that it may be less painful to access Lizzie Lake area via the Cloudraker spur off Rogers Creek FSR. Rogers Creek is in good shape as a mining operation is working up there, and the Cloudraker spur is drivable reasonably high. From there, bushwack up to the height of land and be just above and south of Lizzie Lake. Seems preferable to a long walk on the old Lizzie Lake Road.



We went in the Lizzy Lake way back in September:
http://www.clubtread.com/sforum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=41077

A few overgrown parts on the road, but I didn't find it too too bad to push through.

-Ryan
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