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samsara
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New Westminster, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 09/22/2004 :  12:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I had a cow experience straight from the twilight zone this summer. I was working for Ducks Unlimited and was checking nest boxes. We had to get past this cranky bull, we kept our distance and things seemed to be ok. We were a little nervouse because the bull was kinda thrashing around and making tons of noise, obviously annoyed with us. We got to the nest box and realzied it needed replacing so we had to go back to the truck. On the way back one of the cows charged us. We finally made it back to the nestbox and i started installing it. Up in the ladder i look down for a momment cause i got this creepy feeling and there is the whole herd surrounding us in a semi-circle all staring at us. It was the creepiest ever.
Luckily we escaped with our limbs still intact. But I dont think i wanna see another cow again. Their frightening!


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Bishop
Intermediate Member

yukon hankerin' intrepid dog lovin' fleet footed adventure racing pie packing poet who is ever keen to cave hunt, route find, night hike, and has finally introduced Bishop to Mt. Bishop

Whitehorse, Yukon
Canada

934 Posts

 Posted - 09/22/2004 :  12:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry to stay off topic.. but in the Edge movie Glover? mistakenly stabs himself in the leg, the blood smell attracts the homicidal bear, and then eats Glover? after pulling off his leg or his arm or something really gruesome like that.

Bart the bear is great - he would be a super hiking companion! And I think that he was the bear in the Edge movie but am not sure.

Lupin
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Ladner, BC
Canada

1179 Posts

 Posted - 09/22/2004 :  4:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shadee

Sure enough, two mins later saw a couple large crows, never heard their wings quite make that sound before.



I have a fascination with ravens and crows. ravens especially with their bigger, stronger wings make an awesome sound. You can see/hear them during feeding times at the bear pen on Grouse.

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Crows and ravens are also great copycats, and have been known to to imitate noises made by other birds - or dogs, cats, humans, and even alarm clocks

They've been known to "play injured", or imitate bigger predators to distract animals feeding on a carcass so the flock can get some grub.

Nice cat pic btw.

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drifter
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Makati
Philippines

955 Posts

 Posted - 09/22/2004 :  5:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hiker.. who was it that snapped that pic (original topic)?

blackfly
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Manitoba's misadventurin' bushwhackin', dog sloggin', dehydratin', beer drinkin' biggie - who's eager to peak bag Mt Currie in a dress

Squamish
5057 Posts

 Posted - 09/22/2004 :  6:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is even more off topic than the off topic stuff already posted, so don't read it.

A couple years ago I wanted to upgrade some highschool marks by taking some evening classes and a friend of mine gave me some valuable advice:

"Hey, Chris, remember when you used to go to the bar and have to be on the look out for cougars on the prowl?"

"Yep", said me

"Well", said he, "now that you are in evening school, you have to watch out for an even more agressive predator - Mama Bear with Cub!"

And it was so true.......

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mick range
Extreme Hoser

Trail running, bike hucking, fast packing, beer drinking collector of pine cones on a day pass

AKA

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Forest Gnome Cabin
Canada

13090 Posts

 Posted - 09/22/2004 :  6:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So true,DruThose cougars are far more dangerous,from what I've heard,though at least you have the chance to outrun them sometimes...
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seawallrunner
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double-double seeking, snow-chasing, short-cutting, vertical feet collector


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 Posted - 09/22/2004 :  6:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
cougars are stealthy. and they love to track. not necessarily with an objective to catch.

they just follow around for fun's sake it seems...

hiking friend paul and I were up at Callaghan last year, looking for Conflict lake after reading about a faint trail on bivouac. We followed a freshly-muddy road to a cabin, then found the lake after a brief search. A beautiful, quiet, day.

On the way back, we first took a faint trail around Conflict lake, then rejoined the road we initially followed. There was no one else in that stretch of forest, just us...

as we looked down on the tracks made by our feet, we noticed a third set of footprints, following closely behind.

cougar tracks.

not sure if it was following us closely, or whether it had tracked our footprints after we were long gone, but it was a bit of a surprise to find the animal's fresh tracks right behind ours.

we were about an hour away from the car, and about 30 mins away from the cabin. so we contined our way back to the car, speaking a little louder, perhaps throwing a glance back now and again.

of course we never saw the animal. it likely saw us go up the trail, and then return, and allowed us safe passage.

a beautiful memory of that hike, definitely cherished.

cheers - C Wall.

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Dru
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Sardonic sandbagging scoundrel, Cascade Climbers lobotomized spraymeister, space blanket flyer, new millennium vulgarian betaboy and friend to all squids

Climbing, a mountain
Canada

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 Posted - 09/22/2004 :  8:15 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by drifter

Hiker.. who was it that snapped that pic (original topic)?



It was an automated camera in Montana, according to the biologist who sent it to me at work....
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Dru
Mountain Grammar Police

Sardonic sandbagging scoundrel, Cascade Climbers lobotomized spraymeister, space blanket flyer, new millennium vulgarian betaboy and friend to all squids

Climbing, a mountain
Canada

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 Posted - 09/22/2004 :  8:19 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey C Wall I was working in the Northern Rockies in 92 and had a similar experience..hiked down a sandbar on the Sukunka River, seived a ton of gravel, hiked back up the bar an hour later and there were cougar tracks right over top of ours. It had obviously stalked us and we never saw it.

Saw a big, big Lynx chasing a deer that same summer. I always though Lynx were the size of bobcats, like a small dog - this one was the size of a very big dog, would have been waist high to me if I'd gotten out of the truck.

I have never seen a cougar though. or a wild grizzly

johngenx
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Finally stopping that crazy suffering that is ice, climbing to concentrate on great ski tours!
3523 Posts

 Posted - 09/22/2004 :  11:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jasper has a warning for a cougar on trail #9 near Old Fort Point. I was on #9, but figured I was okay since I was all the way down by Wabasso Lake. Whoops.

I was watching a moose cow crossing the trail and heading north from the lake when I caught sight of a cougar stalking the moose. The cat was over 100M from me, but I was still wide-eyed-to-the max. The big guy looked in my direction just I as lit off a banger. Did that EVER work! Big kitty took off at warp speed. I sure wish I had eyes in the back of my head after that. At the intersection of #9 and the climb to the Skyline, there were big cat tracks in the mud, heading north back towards the JPL and Old Fort Point.

It's easy to forget the large territory these cats have and how fast they can move.

BCer
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Buntzen roving stealthy beer mule and artist, aspiring weird image findmaster who loves BC

lower mainland
Canada

1647 Posts

 Posted - 09/23/2004 :  12:11 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's an amazing picture, thanks for posting! I worked on northern Vancouver Island a while ago and the job entailed walking through the bush with only a ribbon trail to follow. The work was always solo with the day ending with a walk back to the truck after dark, usually around 10pm or so. There was this one particular route that always gave me the heaby jeabies. On this one more than any other I'd feel like I was being watched. I'd finally reach the truck and with one motion whip my backpack into the back of the truck while opening the door and sliding onto the front seat, slamming the door shut.

It makes one wonder if that deer sensed anything at all??
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The Hiker
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Fleece thong wearin, Buntzen Lurkin, mystic poet mountain man and international spokesman of the friends of the white squirrel society

Port Moody, B.C.
Canada

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 Posted - 09/23/2004 :  12:17 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Did you see that Hopkins/Baldwin movie? The one with the homicidal bear - ugh that was an irresponsible movie.


Yes I did . Laughed like heck at that one. Funny thing I had a few friends , that after seeing it didn't want to come hiking with me.

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The Hiker
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Fleece thong wearin, Buntzen Lurkin, mystic poet mountain man and international spokesman of the friends of the white squirrel society

Port Moody, B.C.
Canada

5942 Posts

 Posted - 09/23/2004 :  12:25 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Hiker.. who was it that snapped that pic (original topic)?


Don't know where it came from. maybe Ronbo knows, he is the one that sent it to me.

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ooops see that one was answered.





Edited by - The Hiker on 09/23/2004 12:27 AM
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Ronbo
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Edited by
Ron Paley

Maple Ridge, B.C.
Canada

1434 Posts

 Posted - 10/01/2004 :  8:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not sure where it was taken or if the photographer survived. Hard to explain those scratches on his back to the wife. I got the email from a buddy up country. Just one of the photo's that makes it way around and around.

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RedWolf
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114 Posts

 Posted - 10/03/2004 :  5:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"The Edge" was filmed in the Canmore and Kananaskis areas. Bart the Bear was the bear.


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Alsidprime
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Port Moody, British columbia
Canada

276 Posts

 Posted - 10/03/2004 :  7:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
a good part of "the Edge" was filmed in Jasper Provincial park. I thought it was an amazing movie.... Though the bear bits were a bit excentric....

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tripleDot
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 Posted - 10/10/2004 :  9:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey guys, a friend send me this picture. It was labeled with "Canada's Top 100 Employers 2003". I'm not sure if it's real or not (in the sense that it might be staged) so just view it in the lighter side of life.

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The Hiker
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Fleece thong wearin, Buntzen Lurkin, mystic poet mountain man and international spokesman of the friends of the white squirrel society

Port Moody, B.C.
Canada

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 Posted - 10/10/2004 :  10:15 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
tripleDot; Trilluim had the same problem every time she went to take a bath in the lake... I snapped this in Robson.


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toolbox
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Courtenay, BC
Canada

181 Posts

 Posted - 10/14/2004 :  12:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
FYI.. On a sad note.

Bart the Bear, the one in the edge, died in 2000. He lived for 23 years. Not bad for a movie star bear. Following in his foot steps is little bart (not his son).

http://members.tripod.com/bartbear/

Nomad
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camera hauling, deli packing, stove exploder who bushwhacks ridges to false summits

South West corner of, BC
Canada

1557 Posts

 Posted - 11/20/2004 :  4:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
*bump*
I'd like to pose the question: What do you consider hiking "solo"? and is it really as dangerous as we fear?

We're all familiar with going out to the boondocks to spend time alone and get a good hike in. Not inviting anyone or expecting anyone with the clear intention of being alone. Getting "me time." We know that's solo.

But what about the more travelled route? (in good weather)
Is going up busy trails such as the Elfin Freeway, Garibaldi highway, the Granite Grind (Chief) and Grouse Gind, and most popular trails on the North Shore hiking solo?
Just because you leave your home solo and don't expect to see anyone familiar at the trailhead at a given time, but there are a dozen or more ppl on the trail at the same time, does this count as a "solo hike" and thus "dangerous"?

Keeping in mind weather conditions here. Granted I would not want to hike alone anywhere past Red Heather in a whiteout. Just foggy at Artist Point would get me lost to no extent.

Plus there's common sense and confidence with experiance. An experianced mountaianeer could guffaw at what would make a novice sweat.

Is going solo really all that dangerous, when thought and planning are used? (Not including dancing under cornices in blizzard conditions with an open pack of smoked salmon in the bag. )

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Edited by - Nomad on 11/20/2004 4:54 PM
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