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Bishop
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yukon hankerin' intrepid dog lovin' fleet footed adventure racing pie packing poet who is ever keen to cave hunt, route find, night hike, and has finally introduced Bishop to Mt. Bishop

Whitehorse, Yukon
Canada

934 Posts

 Posted - 08/04/2004 :  11:23 AM  Show Profile  Reply to this posting
Well, I just bought myself a dehydrator yesterday and spent my evening well into the wee hours cutting fruit and veggies and fiddling with it. Now I am really tired, was late for work, and can't wait to get back home to see how everything turned out.

One of my first plans with it is to buy a timer switch. I went hiking with Blackfly last weekend, and he mused a few times about whether he had turned his dehydrator off before we left, or if he would be returning home to overly dried unusable unidentifiable items...haha

I will try and keep this thread running with any fabulous dehydrator tips and recipes that I find out before this love affair runs it's course.

I think I am in love pretty bad..
1. Staying up late on a work night and then getting to work late.
2. Thinking about it and all the possibilities of the future.
3. Declaring my love on a public website.
4. Running home early just to be with it.

My first adventurous try besides fruit et al is curry. I am so excited to see how it turns out!

Terra
Intermediate Member


Never-Never Land, B.C.
Canada

720 Posts

 Posted - 08/04/2004 :  11:31 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Right on Bishop! I hope the two of you will be very happy together.

I really want one too.

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Bootsgal
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Vancouver, BC
Canada

9 Posts

 Posted - 08/04/2004 :  11:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just spent a few hours online, looking up info for a seminar on dehydrating. I hear that smelly items may be best dehydrated with a window open nearby, and not in combination with foods whose flavours you would like to stand alone, eg. strawberries.

I dried a bunch of fruits and veg last month, and here were the top snack items:

Pineapple rings packed in juice
Strawberry slices
Apple slices - amazingly quick to dehydrate with Cameo apples
Banana spears (1/8 of 1/2 large banana, lengthwise slice)
Peeled Oranges sliced crosswise
Broccoli dehydrated well, but blanch it first, since it smells composty and goes off if you don't.

After 20 hours, the chutney on saran wrap still hadn't dehydrated.

I've had great chili and black bean soup home-dehydrated... mmm.

Another good recipe is Pakora pancakes, with chickpea flour or any bean flour, (maybe not soy) finely sliced veggies, cilantro, or parsely in any combination, cumin, cayenne to taste and salt to taste mixed with water to a pancakey consistency and sauteed like pancakes in oil.

You could soak dried veggies like herbs, broccoli, carrots or cabbage in the batter while you prepare, and the cooking heat would help them rehydrate.

Tastes great, has protein, fibre and veggies, good hot or cold, with yogurt, chutney, chili sauce, you name it. I add a little lemon or vinegar to the batter if I have no toppings.

blackfly
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Manitoba's misadventurin' bushwhackin', dog sloggin', dehydratin', beer drinkin' biggie - who's eager to peak bag Mt Currie in a dress

Squamish
5037 Posts

 Posted - 08/04/2004 :  8:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Another topic I really enjoy! Food, yay!

I've been drying food for about 5 years, and though I tend to stick with what works for me, there is so much stuff out there that can be dried, it boggles the mind

Right now I have in my (borrowed) dryer some cooked hamburger, and some (cooked and blanched) green beans, to create my most (current) favorite trail dish. Also I have a roast all cut up marinating in some good stuff for jerky! mmmmmm. That will go in the dryer before work in the morning. The only problem I have with jerky is that I tend to eat it before I get on trail. D'oh!

I can give lots of tips on lots of different fruits, veggies and meats, so any questions fire away. Here's a few pointers, though:

  • cut all your stuff the same thickness (relatively) so it dries at the same rate - 1/4" is usually good except for really dense things like carrots, so then go down to 1/8"
  • A little too dry is better than not dry enough. When you aren't sure, take some out, let it cool (the heat from the dryer will make it feel still damp while it's actually dry, hence the reason for cooling) and then test it. Some stuff will be pliable, some stuff will be brittle. Jerky, for example, will be pliable, and onions will be brittle
  • Some odors will cross contaminate, but not as much as you might think. For example, the GBeans and hamburger I have in the dryer right now will be fine. However, onions and strawberries together would be a bad idea.
  • Spicy stuff will be more so when you rehydrate. Onions, will be far more potent rehydrated than they were in their original state. You're forwarned!
  • When drying fruits and veggies that turn brown when exposed to oxygen (ie, apples, pears, bananas), give em a quick rinse with lemon juice or vinegar before drying - they will retain their colour and look much more appealing.
  • Fruit leather!!!!! Yah! If you have a blender, you can mix and match any fruit you want and make a leather out of it (like a fruit roll up). Again, a touch of lemon juice will help preserve colour. This is a fun one to experiment with.
  • Tomato leather - same as fruit leather, but be cautioned that if you overdry tomato leather as it gets a yucky burnt taste. Usually not a problem with fruit leather unless you really cook it.
  • Be careful with the timer Bishop - overdry is better, underdry is almost alway meant for the garbage can, unless you catch it in time. I'd suggest, until you get a good idea of how powerful your dehydrator is, that you turn it on when you get home from work, and then get up around 4am to check it, so if it's dry you can turn it off. Average time for drying stuff is 10 hours, again many things vary in time. Onions will take no time at all, (6 hrs), but carrots will take 12.
  • For rehydrating, it's a good idea to put your dinner in water at lunchtime, so it is rehydrated by dinner time. Heating water will quicken the rehydrating time, but that still means an hour of sitting around camp waiting for your stuff to rehydrate if you don't do it at lunch. Which sucks when you're really hungry


And lastly, Kiwi fruit packs quite a wallop when it's dried. Nice and tart. So do strawberried. (and Kiwi have an added bonus - when you are munching on dried kiwi, you get to pick the little seeds out of your teeth for 1/2 hour afterward, giving you that lasting kiwi flavour....)

Ok, gotta stop typing. Fingers cramping.

ginsengjoe
Junior Member


Port Coquitlam, BC
Canada

131 Posts

 Posted - 08/04/2004 :  9:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How much is a decent dehydrator, and can you recommend a brand?

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trailflower
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Super botonist, hippie chick who cuddles thistles with glee

Langley, BC
Canada

1541 Posts

 Posted - 08/04/2004 :  9:18 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Great topic! Keep posting ideas. Mine has been sitting in the cupboard for too long.....

MJDJ
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 Posted - 08/04/2004 :  9:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, bananas are GREAT! So is pineapple, but it looks a bit strange when dried...if you don't mind eating a small wrinkled ring, you should be able to get past it!
Apples are really yummy if you dry them to "leather" consistency, not until they are like rocks! Cut them into wedges or rings and dip them in lemon juice so they don't turn brown.

The BEST jerky I've ever made (and I believe that jerky should be a meat SUBSTITUTE instead of a piece of so-spicy-hot-that-you-can't-eat-it chunk of boot leather) is by using CORNED BEEF (or Pastrami) from the deli. Get them to slice it THICK (1/4" or so), and trim off the rind, then marinade it overnight in water with a bit of liquid smoke. Dry until leathery...delicious!

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blackfly
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Manitoba's misadventurin' bushwhackin', dog sloggin', dehydratin', beer drinkin' biggie - who's eager to peak bag Mt Currie in a dress

Squamish
5037 Posts

 Posted - 08/04/2004 :  9:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You can pick up a decent dyhydrator for around $60. You can spend more, and get temp controls and so on, but the one I have is strictly on or off. I think American Harvest is the brand name. The one I'm using right now has a temp control, and it's quite old. No name on it.

You can even make one, by using a box with some trays and a light bulb at the bottom. Put in a little fan to speed things up. A friend of mine made a huge one, the size of a closet, and dried everything for him, his wife and two others, for a TWO WEEK trip, all in ONE SHOT. They spent an entire day just choppin.

MJDJ, that jerky sounds really good. I'll try that next. The stuff I have in the marinating now has a marinade with soy sauce, salt, pepper, and a few shots of tobasco. I wanted to put some raw garlic in it too, but forgot to get it at the store.

Great thing about jerky too is that you can rhydrate it to use in a stir fry, or a stew, or fajitas....... it doesn't have to be a dry snack.



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trigger
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New Westminster, BC
Canada

1138 Posts

 Posted - 08/04/2004 :  10:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
MJDJ I will try that as well I usually use top round, soya, spice and some cure.
Leaving the window open or leaving it some where else in the house is a must unless you like the smell of what you are drying.

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Superfreak
Starting Member


Abby, BC
Canada

45 Posts

 Posted - 08/05/2004 :  12:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
YES!!

I bought one a month or so ago, and man do I love it.

JERKY JERKY JERKY!!!

I am dried food heaven! Nothing quite like the smell of dehydrating fruit or jerky. And the timer idea is a good one. Would help keep the banana's from turning into compressed powder pellets.

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Bishop
Intermediate Member

yukon hankerin' intrepid dog lovin' fleet footed adventure racing pie packing poet who is ever keen to cave hunt, route find, night hike, and has finally introduced Bishop to Mt. Bishop

Whitehorse, Yukon
Canada

934 Posts

 Posted - 08/20/2004 :  11:20 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So I have been dehydrating all sorts of things since I last posted..

Bananas, Nectarines, Strawberries, Peppers, Broccoli

I dehydrated a curry that I made - what a treat on the trail! It worked out very well.

I am looking forward to my breakfast of organic oatmeal and dehydrated fruits - better than those little oatmeal envelopes - that is for sure!

Shadee
sweet n innocent

ass wigglin, cheese lovin, 4x4 drivin, apostrophe hatin, hiking chick who loves camping on snow

spaceship..
Canada

7209 Posts

 Posted - 08/20/2004 :  12:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bishop


I am looking forward to my breakfast of organic oatmeal and dehydrated fruits - better than those little oatmeal envelopes - that is for sure!





d'oh, thats all I have for this weekend
eventually I will join the crowd of good taste and get myself a dehydrator - not practical right now, maybe I should just look pathetic when other ppl have nicer food in their bags
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BillyGoat
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Satirical photoshop junkie who frolics in the mountains of the Chilliwack River Valley

Chilliwack, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 08/20/2004 :  12:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I bought an american harvester dehydrator for like 35 bucks awhile back at my beloved MTF store. I use it a fair bit for jerky, but I also have tried dehydrating sausage for adding to sidekicks on the trail, and have found that to work well. I also dehydrated raw ground turkey, and found that to work well in sidekicks too (the turkey cooks as it's being dyhydrated by the way).
For fruit, my favorite is dried apples. I have a slicer that cuts them into uniform thickness. I leave the peels on as well...it takes a bit longer to dry that way, but I hate peeling apples, and the peels have nutrition in them anyway. Brocolli turns out great in a dehydrator as well.

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trailflower
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Super botonist, hippie chick who cuddles thistles with glee

Langley, BC
Canada

1541 Posts

 Posted - 08/20/2004 :  12:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We cooked with 2 lovely families from Edmonton at Berg, and they dehydrate everything. Showed me their ground beef, and shared their kolbassa with me. They even dehydrate the weinies for their KraftDinner.
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DW2
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West Coast, B.C.
1395 Posts

 Posted - 08/25/2004 :  5:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A good breakfast idea to go along with a pack of the freeze dried omelets is to dehydrate a can of pork and beans. Just line the tray with plastic wrap leaving space for the air to circulate around it, spread out the beans and dry at about 135 degrees for up to 10 hours. They are a big hit on winter camps and rehydrate up nicely. Got this idea from Notrace several years ago and has been a regular menu item of our since.

hotrod
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 Posted - 09/13/2004 :  06:25 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Joining this discussion a little late. Rather than dip fruits that turn brown into an acid, I simply sprinkle onto the slices a little cinnamon sugar. This gives a little flavor boost and you won't be turned off by any brown (because your mind tells you it's cinnamon). Same reason you always put pepper on jerky--so you won't wonder what those specks are (mold? bugs? no, it's pepper!).

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OK Jack
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Fungi Filmin', Wine Drinkin', 'Shroom Eatin', Early Risin', Deer Whisperin', Curry Cookin', Macro Maniac

Chilliwack + Osoyoos
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 Posted - 09/13/2004 :  08:23 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I use mine for wild mushrooms...

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Bishop
Intermediate Member

yukon hankerin' intrepid dog lovin' fleet footed adventure racing pie packing poet who is ever keen to cave hunt, route find, night hike, and has finally introduced Bishop to Mt. Bishop

Whitehorse, Yukon
Canada

934 Posts

 Posted - 09/13/2004 :  08:34 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I tried dehydrating pork and beans a few weeks ago - and I have never been so happy. I had them for breakfast (ditching the whole oatmeal deal entirely) and I had brought a block of havarti cheese which I cut into squares. It was just like gold panning, digging around in there to find the nuggets of cheese.

Five stars. Although not quite as classy as the Bishop's Restaurant in Kits.
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The Hiker
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Fleece thong wearin, Buntzen Lurkin, mystic poet mountain man and international spokesman of the friends of the white squirrel society

Port Moody, B.C.
Canada

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 Posted - 09/13/2004 :  09:01 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Great thread. After Robson and talking to those people I was convinced too. Just missed a deal at London Drugs. They had the american harvester on for $25. Walmart sells them for $39 ( same as London Drugs regular price) so I'm thinking of picking one up this week.
How many extra trays should I get or do I even need them.

hobo
Junior Member


Vancouver, B.C.
Canada

149 Posts

 Posted - 10/15/2004 :  8:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
how long do all these wounderful sounding things last for after dehydrating? do vegies fruit and meat all last similar times? whats the best way to store them?

i've been thinking about geting a dehydrator for awhile but i thought they would cost more. i think i'll be checking out canadian tire/wallmart type places soon.

any brands to stear clear of?

blackfly
Advanced Member

Manitoba's misadventurin' bushwhackin', dog sloggin', dehydratin', beer drinkin' biggie - who's eager to peak bag Mt Currie in a dress

Squamish
5037 Posts

 Posted - 10/15/2004 :  9:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They last quite awhile Hobo. They keep in the fridge for ages, but if you're dehydrating in the winter for the summer season, you can stick it in the freezer til ready to use.

I've used dehydrated stuff on 10 day trips with no issues at all. I know of people that have gone months with it.

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