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shaggy
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Cycling guru, Wig wearing, James Bond wannabe, answers to the call of "Eurobabe"

Langley
Canada

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 Posted - 07/22/2004 :  4:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply to this posting
I know many of us will be out on the trails this weekend, Having recently completed the Wilderness First Aid Course I thought I would make everyone aware of another thing to watch for this weekend, Heat Exhaustion, which can lead to Heat stroke (potentially fatal).

Make sure you cover up, wear a hat, take breaks and drink lots of water.
Here's a link with some info on what to watch for and what to do.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/invoke.cfm?objectid=6EA9E9E2-092B-4E95-BF4FBD95708D703F
Be Safe!!



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Geez!!! damn pole is stuck again!!!!!

Edited by - shaggy on 07/22/2004 4:49 PM

Jimbo
Forest Gnome

adventure seeking, peak-bagging, high-enduring, strong and silent forest gnome

N49°09', W122°47'
Canada

3819 Posts

 Posted - 07/22/2004 :  4:18 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good point, thanks Shaggy!

It's good to see someone putting all that training we got to use!

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Be
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Chilliwack, BC
Canada

77 Posts

 Posted - 07/22/2004 :  5:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I made this mistake a couple of weeks ago when it was really humid here in the valley. It's not fun feeling like you are going to puke with another 5 km of steep downhill trail to go.

You need to be careful with the hat thing though. It can really raise the body temp if it is a thick hat that doesn't breath. Something light is good, but a thick baseball cap on a hot day can be killer. Think about why we wear toques in the winter. Lot's of body heat leaves through your head.
After roasting the other day.. I think I am going to stick to a bandana.
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seawallrunner
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double-double seeking, snow-chasing, short-cutting, vertical feet collector


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 Posted - 07/22/2004 :  5:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
soak bandana in icy-cool creek water at each creek crossing, then wrap bandana around your neck.

this will help tremendously in dropping body temperature if it's getting a touch high

cheers - C Wall

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The Hiker
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Fleece thong wearin, Buntzen Lurkin, mystic poet mountain man and international spokesman of the friends of the white squirrel society

Port Moody, B.C.
Canada

5910 Posts

 Posted - 07/22/2004 :  5:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No Kidding ! I was up at Polytricuim Look-out last night after work. It took me 1- 15min to get up, and went thru 2L of water.At 7:30pm in the parking lot at Buntzen it was still 28o.Needless to say there was not a single soul on the trail. Even my bushy tailed friends were moving slowly.

There was , however, several nice young ladies in teeny tiny bikinis coming up from the beach
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The Hiker
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Fleece thong wearin, Buntzen Lurkin, mystic poet mountain man and international spokesman of the friends of the white squirrel society

Port Moody, B.C.
Canada

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 Posted - 07/22/2004 :  5:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
soak bandana in icy-cool creek water at each creek crossing, then wrap bandana around your neck.
this will help tremendously in dropping body temperature if it's getting a touch high



This has never worked for me on very hot days. I heat up too fast and sweat like mad.I end up with a hot wet rag dripping down my back

Edited by - The Hiker on 07/22/2004 5:20 PM

trailrider
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Maple Ridge, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 07/22/2004 :  5:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I bought a hat normally used for running. It has a mesh top in it, which allows the heat to pass through the top. I have found that it helps to reduce my body temperature (still a little warmer than no hat, but much better than a baseball hat) and it still gives protection from the sun.
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seawallrunner
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double-double seeking, snow-chasing, short-cutting, vertical feet collector


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 Posted - 07/22/2004 :  6:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
>This has never worked for me on very hot days.

I bought a bandana in California that has a shammy sewn inside. The shammy is much like the shammies that some of us use to buff our cars or trucks during the final step of waxing.

Basically the product looks like a triangular scarf - with the cottony banadana on the outside, and the shammy hidden on the inside.

The shammy keeps the cold water inside of the bandana for a long time. And the soft cotton of the bandana feels good against the skin.

It's lovely and useful when running on mountain ranges, or in deep canyons. The "Cool Off" bandana is available for $15US at http://www.ws100.com/store.htm

Fantastic trail accessory on days such as this.

NFI - C Wall

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bikerider
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Road raging trail blazer

Surrey, B.C.
Canada

1722 Posts

 Posted - 07/22/2004 :  6:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
3 Vets has something similar. One kind for wrists and another for necks.

valencia
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New Westminster, BC
Canada

183 Posts

 Posted - 07/22/2004 :  6:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I bring along a spray bottle that mists me and everyone with me quite nicely. Plus I bring my bandana for a cool dip in a creek and my tilley hat, which I take off in the shade as my head gets too warm otherwise. The hat does provide a good amount of shade in the sun though. I also find wetting my head directly or making my hat wet works.
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Kodiak
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Castlegar, B.C.
Canada

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 Posted - 07/22/2004 :  6:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What about guy's "ME" with receding hair line's, a hat is a must!
Anyone have any good suggestions other than mesh hats that let UVA rays in ?
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seawallrunner
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double-double seeking, snow-chasing, short-cutting, vertical feet collector


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 Posted - 07/22/2004 :  6:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
bikerider - do you remember how much they cost? I love my bandana, but not the design on it.

cheers - C Wall

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blackfly
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Manitoba's misadventurin' bushwhackin', dog sloggin', dehydratin', beer drinkin' biggie - who's eager to peak bag Mt Currie in a dress

Squamish
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 Posted - 07/22/2004 :  6:46 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the reminder, Shaggy.

It's gonna be hot this weekend.

I do the bandana in the water thing as well. I often let it dribble down my back on purpose for the cooling effect. Better yet is letting it dribble down your front - when cold water touches my stomach are it has a nice cooling effect for me. Not to mention my shirt gets all wet and then I'm cooled further by evaporation.

trailflower
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Super botonist, hippie chick who cuddles thistles with glee

Langley, BC
Canada

1541 Posts

 Posted - 07/22/2004 :  7:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.prescotthats.com/spf_hats.htm

My friend just got one of these, the Adventure Hat. I'll post a review after she's worn it a few times.
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Q
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chocolate lovin, Bailey's slurpin, cold feet hatin', veggie eatin', true Cancerian water lovin', CT smilin', boulder dodgin', nosummitosis survivor


1594 Posts

 Posted - 07/23/2004 :  10:17 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I used the bandana idea when I was in Oliver recently and it was 40 degrees!! It helped immensely!! As did the spritzing thing. Oh yeah, and so did the pool!!
Hats seem to be under used in B.C. I can't believe how many people will go kayaking for a whole day without one! Just silly.
Q
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cdanes
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North Vancouver, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 07/23/2004 :  10:40 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've had enough of these heat exhaustion/strokes to know to avoid them...last year in late fall was caught with too little water on an incredibly hot day (I think it was over 30 in November) during a hike at High Falls. Ran out of water half way down the long winding logging road with no protection from the blazing sun... I can't remember feeling so sick as I was that night...it was like the worst hang-over ever three times over...

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Lupin
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Ladner, BC
Canada

1176 Posts

 Posted - 07/23/2004 :  4:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.buyabuff.com
my choice in headgear. very versatile. awesome for all types of sports (i use mine for hockey) where you can't afford to be wiping sweat out of your eyes. Convinced a friend to get one...he uses it with his motorbike helmet. Made famous by "survivor"
Multitudes of designs to choose from.


don't forget that salt intake!


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Peak Bagger
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Moxie scambler of pinnacles, tireless leader haunting the CDN/US border climbing everything in sight

Burnaby, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 07/23/2004 :  4:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good tips all! Another suggestion: Get an early start and gain the elevation in the cooler conditions of the early morning. Then you still have the hot late-afternoon to sit on the deck with a coupla' cold wobbly-pops.

Cyas in the hills.

PB
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cdanes
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North Vancouver, BC
Canada

433 Posts

 Posted - 07/23/2004 :  5:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Peak Bagger

Good tips all! Another suggestion: Get an early start and gain the elevation in the cooler conditions of the early morning. Then you still have the hot late-afternoon to sit on the deck with a coupla' cold wobbly-pops.



yeah, easier said than done...just told my friends that we should leave at 5am for tomorrow's hike and they said that's when they usually go to sleep...argh... I think I'll have to start hiking alone...more freedom...

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ChuckLW
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Night owl posting,Subie driving, backpacking Dad who is perpetually trying to catch up to his kids on the trail.

Vancouver, BC
Canada

3055 Posts

 Posted - 07/27/2004 :  12:51 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My method for dealing with the heat and sun is to stay well covered. Starting with the head I wear my Tilley LTM3 hat. This hat has a 2cm mesh strip encircling the upper part just below the top. The top shouldn't actually rest on your head so there is a shaded air space for circulation. It has a fairly wide brim that can be unsnapped at the sides to provide all around shade.



That's me and my Tilley on the left. (Different trip: not too hot!)

I also cover up with a light, breathable, longsleeve shirt with a collar that can be flipped up to keep the sun off my neck. I just got a Mountain Hardware shirt that even has an extra flap under the collar to extend right up to completely cover the back of the neck. Finally, light, breathable, long pants (currently MEC River pants).

This get up was put to the test Saturday when I was out from 11am to 6pm on an entirely sun exposed hike on Ptarmigan Ridge. The lack of shade was compounded by a significant amount of time spent out on snow fields. In spite of the heat, the cover up method worked very well and I felt remarkably comfortable for the entire hike. Back at camp I realized just how hot it had been when I went to squeeze some margarin from a tube to add to our Sidekick dinner: pure liquid poured out.

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Edited by - ChuckLW on 07/27/2004 12:53 AM
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