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High River, (just south of Calgary eh!), Alberta
Canada
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Posted - 07/20/2012 : 4:22 PM
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| Closed in both directions - traffic backing up but nobody caught in it thankfully. |
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Van, BC
Canada
2788 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2012 : 4:22 PM
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Wow, wonder exactly where it is (trying to think about what creeks cross the highway around there...)
-Ryan
Edit: bet it's the creek coming off Mt. Cory - news is saying west of Banff and before Bow Valley Parkway turnoff. Looking forward to seeing pics.
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Edited by - Ryan.in.yaletown on 07/20/2012 4:25 PM |
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High River, (just south of Calgary eh!), Alberta
Canada
1700 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2012 : 4:26 PM
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Thirdhand photo emailed me by a friend who saw it on Twitter. Norquay maybe? |
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Powell River, bc
Canada
2534 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2012 : 4:40 PM
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| Wow,good no one got hurt! |
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North Vancouver, BC
Canada
1606 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2012 : 4:53 PM
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Originally posted by Sodbuster
Thirdhand photo emailed me by a friend who saw it on Twitter. Norquay maybe?
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=51.183755,-115.598155&hl=en&ll=51.179235,-115.61692&spn=0.005434,0.016512&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=58.206849,135.263672&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=51.17965,-115.617285&panoid=MU3Cn3eaEV5ryZiLM5QmUw&cbp=12,270.59,,0,2.87
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Finally stopping that crazy suffering that is ice, climbing to concentrate on great ski tours!
3505 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2012 : 5:28 PM
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| Drove through there at about 1:00 today, glad I got home!! |
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Posted - 07/21/2012 : 10:22 AM
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kind of surprising, as there wasn't much rain leading up to this.
after having a 20 km day, i was quite happy to have it take me nearly 3 hours to get from just east of bourgeau parking lot to banff. Westbound lanes were backed up even worse.
someone must have come pretty close to getting smucked though! |
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the mountain parks, Alberta
Canada
102 Posts |
Posted - 07/21/2012 : 10:52 AM
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| Pretty sure that's the same spot that has had a new little waterfall running down to the roadside for the past couple of months. |
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Van, BC
Canada
2788 Posts |
Posted - 07/21/2012 : 12:36 PM
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Pic from the CBC article:
-Ryan |
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Mountain Grammar Police
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Sardonic sandbagging scoundrel, Cascade Climbers lobotomized spraymeister, space blanket flyer, new millennium vulgarian betaboy and friend to all squids
Climbing, a mountain
Canada
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Posted - 07/21/2012 : 12:42 PM
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| Damn, that debris flow gets more tourist attention than a roadside bear. |
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Calgary, Alberta
Andorra
3787 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2012 : 9:18 PM
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Well, when you're stuck waiting to get through, might as well check it out...
In case anyone hadn't heard, everything is so well cleared up you wouldn't even know where it was.
It's very strange that it's a tiny little creekbed that isn't even flowing water now. It must have been a really random event that send the mud down the creek. |
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Fleece thong wearin, Buntzen Lurkin, mystic poet mountain man and international spokesman of the friends of the white squirrel society
Port Moody, B.C.
Canada
5904 Posts |
Posted - 07/23/2012 : 08:29 AM
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Wonder why they just didn't hand out shovels ? It would have been cleaned up in no time . |
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Edmonton, AB
Canada
216 Posts |
Posted - 07/23/2012 : 09:45 AM
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| I'm honestly surprised there wasn't a big pickup truck trapped somewhere in the middle of it. No matter what the natural hazard, there's always someone willing to give it a go and serve as an example to others. |
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2421 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2012 : 11:46 AM
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Left Edmonton at 1:00 PM to go to Yoho, and found out about it at 5:00 when we got to the Park gates. Since there were 8 more people meetings us at Whiskey Jack, we decided to go through to Banff and see if we could wait it out. Got there around 7:00 and waited for a couple of hours.
Finally, the two people I was with decided to go back to Edmonton; since there were people who would be waiting for me at Yoho, I couldn't, so they left me on a street corner in Banff with my pack and cooler. At around 10:30, someone came by and picked me up. The highway was still closed at 11:00 so we went looking for a hotel room. The closest one that was available was in Calgary!
Made it to Yoho at 11:00AM Saturday morning. Still did Twin falls and the Iceline, but it was a much later day than planned.
What I don't understand is that the mudslide was at the same spot as last time, right between the Norquay turnoff and the 1A Johnston Canyon road. Since it had already happened before, I wonder why they didn't try to stabilize the banks to prevent the reoccurrence.
The real problem comes from destabilizing the slope in the first place to build the road. No supportive ground cover left and no drainage for the water that accumulates in the shale and sediment that makes up the hill. |
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Mountain Grammar Police
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Sardonic sandbagging scoundrel, Cascade Climbers lobotomized spraymeister, space blanket flyer, new millennium vulgarian betaboy and friend to all squids
Climbing, a mountain
Canada
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Posted - 07/27/2012 : 12:30 PM
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| Nope. It actually initiated upslope, near Escargot Corner, from what I've been told. Nothing to do with the highway, Peter. |
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Posted - 07/27/2012 : 1:07 PM
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Originally posted by Dru
Nope. It actually initiated upslope, near Escargot Corner, from what I've been told. Nothing to do with the highway, Peter.
When I looked the next morning as we drove through, I saw an open slope with nothing to hold it in place. I saw a whole section of that slope that had slid down off one side of the promontory that the highway goes around. The water flowing down through the loose shale and sediment, seemed to be what had washed away all the mud. The water I'm sure came from somewhere farther up, but some mud definitely came off the slope.
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High River, (just south of Calgary eh!), Alberta
Canada
1700 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2012 : 1:47 PM
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| Crappy timing Peter. |
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Calgary, Alberta
Andorra
3787 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2012 : 6:30 PM
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When I drove through the same next morning, it looked like a small channel that had simply funneled everything down with only a tiny loss of ground from the area directly beside the highway. Perhaps the appearance was open to interpretation?
A coworker who was stuck by both this slide and the last one and had a good look told me that the last one was in the same area but a different channel with a much bigger slide that kept destabilizing, with this one in a different small channel (hence the quick cleanup).
I haven't seen anything official comparing the two. |
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Posted - 07/30/2012 : 07:34 AM
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Originally posted by Rachelo
Perhaps the appearance was open to interpretation?
For sure. I got a quick look only as we drove through, and while there was definitely a section of the slope that had lost all its soil cover, there didn't seem to be enough gone to explain a 2-foot deep pile of mud covering such a large section.
When you drive by, it's pretty clear that the area directly above the highway at that point has nothing much to hold it in place. Farther up, there are trees and undergrowth, but immediately above it, there seems to be nothing but a bit of grass with the rocks poking through. |
Edited by - peter1955 on 07/30/2012 07:40 AM |
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Mountain Grammar Police
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Sardonic sandbagging scoundrel, Cascade Climbers lobotomized spraymeister, space blanket flyer, new millennium vulgarian betaboy and friend to all squids
Climbing, a mountain
Canada
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Posted - 07/30/2012 : 09:13 AM
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Originally posted by peter1955
When you drive by, it's pretty clear that the area directly above the highway at that point has nothing much to hold it in place.
And when you look at an airplane in flight, there are no cables holding it up, so it's pretty clear that it's going to crash. Right?
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Mudslide 2km west of Banff - TransCan closed
