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Calgary, Alberta
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Posted - 07/15/2012 : 3:39 PM
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Another paddler and myself (a newbie) were talking about the best way to haul water for multi-day trips. I know a number of outfitters use those large blue 10–litre water jugs but I favour using a soft dromedary-type container. I have used these for years backpacking – albeit smaller ones of 2-3 litre size.
My buddy says that he can’t stand the chemical taste which the rubber dromedary containers impart on the water they carry, something he never gets from the blue water jugs.
Maybe my taste buds are shot but I have never experienced this problem. Plus I think the soft containers are easier to transport and safer if you need to carry the water in the cockpit.
What are others using? Thanks.
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Posted - 07/15/2012 : 3:47 PM
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| I use the 4 litre gallon o'milk type jug. I usually carry three or four of them in the cockpit, depending how long the trip is. |
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Vancouver, BC
Canada
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Posted - 07/15/2012 : 3:53 PM
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4 liter wine-bags, available from U-brew stores for about $1 each.
They are cheap and tough. I have never had one break on me.
They lie flat on the bottom of your kayak and make it more stable.
They have no rubber or plastic taste - they are designed to hold wine.
I have carried several dozen at a time for longer trips.
There are about ten of them in front of the two Platypus bags in the centre of this photo:
Here is a zoom:
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Edited by - weedWhacker on 07/15/2012 4:15 PM |
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Posted - 07/15/2012 : 4:45 PM
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I do the same as WeedWhacker. For an 8 day trip, I take 5 or 6 wine bags. they also keep the water quite cool and because they are small and flexible, they fit behind my seat and I can shove them against the bulkhead of my rear hatch without worrying too much about creating an unbalanced load.
Another benefit is that they take up very little room after they are used. Hard sided water containers still take up hatch volume after drained unless you plan to recycle them and can flatten them.
One word of warning .... crows like shiny things. It only happened to me once in the last 10 years, but a crow did take out one of my bags. Bring an extra bag in case you lose one to an accident or crow. They are pretty tough and I have dropped them without rupture. Be sure the spigot is on correctly before loading and be careful packing around the spigot.
Also, don't buy them at Ecomarine. I think they charge something like $4/ea when you can get them for $1 or $2 at the ubrew wine store. |
Edited by - Kathryne on 07/15/2012 4:49 PM |
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Vancouver, BC
Canada
874 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2012 : 5:14 PM
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| Good point about the crows. We have had that problem too. |
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North Vancouver, BC
Canada
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Posted - 07/15/2012 : 8:34 PM
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| Take a water filter as well. |
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Posted - 07/15/2012 : 8:58 PM
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Hi Bluefoot:
This is going to sound odd but I did some week long trips a few years ago with a double kayak, hauling all our water for the whole time. Double boats can actually be a bit tight on room but we used 2L pop bottles. You could stash them all over the boat (bow, stern, 2 beside each seat). I think we packed in 10 of them + a couple of the classic leaky 10L clear containers to boot.
If you can find a fresh water source (we had difficulty on the West Coast of Vancouver Island), those gravity filters are terrific, too. Hope that helps a bit!
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Victoria, BC
Canada
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Posted - 07/16/2012 : 2:20 PM
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| Not weird at all. I have used 2L pop bottles for years. They cost nothing, are tough and don;t leak, and allow UV light through for disinfection. The only drawback is they are the same size when empty. |
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Posted - 07/16/2012 : 3:27 PM
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verify similar topic http://www.clubtread.com/sforum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=43096
You mentioned the dromedary, I just came back from broken islands and my dromedary made the water have a really bad after taste. Contact MSR they said they would warranty it.
But online it says
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Most like the cause is bromine, a chemical now being used in municipal water supplies, works well making it cleaner.
The problem is it eats rubber! Tends to degrade the black rubber used in pluming seals.
Try this: open the tank of your toilet, if you have a black rubber flapper, or the small fill hose is black, rub them with your fingers. If it turns your fingers black you got Bromine. I would not use it in your bag it must effect it.(might want to get a yellow flapper before your toilets starts running)
Try filtering it first before filling you bag.
http://answers.mec.ca/answers/9421-en_ca/product/4000-491/msr-dromedary-water-bag-questions-answers/questions.htm
noted above
mylar only down side is sharp objects puncturing bag
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_01hTZvejNog/TId02eKz5II/AAAAAAAABXU/TexweaOfiC8/s1600/DSCF2527.JPG
msr dromedary
http://casanovasadventures.com/catalog/water/msr_dromedary.jpg
or reliance, mec, CND tire etc, come in different sizes cheap,
http://dogcreektradingpost.com/ccdata/images/smallMain_54_711.jpg
depending on rig and size of your cockpit, i personally had miles of room at the bottom.
So rigged this up
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_j-Pv7CT7mnw/S5cAOA_mgMI/AAAAAAAAHZY/Ymx3PO1OSP4/IMG_0005.JPG |
Edited by - camshaft on 07/16/2012 3:27 PM |
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Nanaimo, BC
Canada
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Posted - 07/22/2012 : 2:58 PM
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| Bring your MSR Dromedary bags. They're handy and sit right on the bottom of the boat, keeping a lower centre of gravity. Then use 2 litre pop bottles. They stow well in the kayak and you can collapse them (or god forbid, burn them). |
Edited by - rdo on 07/22/2012 3:00 PM |
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Posted - 07/22/2012 : 3:29 PM
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| The outfit I work for uses the MSR Dromedary bags for 3-5 day tours. Indestructible, and fold flat when they are empty. Not the cheapest, but good value if you use them a lot. |
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Southern Vancouver Island, BC
Canada
230 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2012 : 5:27 PM
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Nalgene cantenes, 96 oz, i.e. about 3 l. Have used them for bicycle touring in Australia where water is sometimes scarce. Same cap as on a nalgene 1 and 1.4 l bottles.
Can find them at many outdoor stores.
http://store.nalgene.com/Cantene-96oz-p/2595-0096.htm |
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 Fowl photographin, animal lovin, thread trollin, dry bag humpin, canoe canoodler
Vancouver, BC
Canada
4036 Posts |
Posted - 07/31/2012 : 2:08 PM
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| Brewmaster beer making kits give you a the wert in a plastic membrane that is the best thing I have ever seen for water storage, super strong, double layered and conforms to whatever shape the space your trying to use up. Perfect for canoeing and kayaking alike.. although I cant imagine why anyone would want to kayak when canoes are so much better...? |
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Water Containers for Mutli-day Kayak Trips
