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Mountain Grammar Police
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 Sardonic sandbagging scoundrel, Cascade Climbers lobotomized spraymeister, space blanket flyer, new millennium vulgarian betaboy and friend to all squids
Climbing, a mountain
Canada
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Victoria, British Columbia
Canada
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Posted - 07/13/2012 : 12:02 PM
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Unfortunate for them, but I don't see why it would result in more gates, as this equipment was already behind a gate when it was destroyed. Gates clearly weren't a deterrent.
Also, Brian Dorman sounds pretty over the top dramatic. |
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Mountain Grammar Police
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Sardonic sandbagging scoundrel, Cascade Climbers lobotomized spraymeister, space blanket flyer, new millennium vulgarian betaboy and friend to all squids
Climbing, a mountain
Canada
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Posted - 07/13/2012 : 12:15 PM
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| The logic is like this. If someone breaks into your house, snapping the lock in the process, and steals a bunch of stuff, do you decide that therefore locks don't work, or that you need a better lock? |
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North Vancouver, BC
Canada
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Posted - 07/13/2012 : 12:30 PM
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Although I think you are right about this resulting in more gates, it's a little silly. He already had a locked gate. It sounds like he needed to implement an additional measure such as having a mall-cop parked at the locked gate.
Name another industry where you would leave a million dollars of equipment unguarded in an area where you know vandalism occurs?
He doesn't really have any other practical options. Gates alone clearly don't work. The police aren't going to be able to stop all grow ops and monitor all crown land.
It sounds like he is now going to go overkill and maybe even get into vigilante justice.
""We're going to hire some muscle," he told the Times. "And not the type in black and white suits.""
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Happy go lucky, plaid wearin, postholin, safeway gaitor sportin, old-school film shootin, giver of many regards
Abbotsford, B.C.
Canada
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Posted - 07/13/2012 : 12:37 PM
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That really sucks bigtime, I believe I saw this equipment earlier this year on a hike up Ford.
Sometime between the afternoon of June 28 and the morning of July 3 fire was set to three pieces of road building machinery sitting 11.5 kilometres up Mount Woodside Forest Service Road.
A 1997 Volvo dump truck, a 2004 John Deere excavator and a Finning rock drill—all belonging to Tamihi Logging Company—were destroyed. That has Tamihi Logging owner Brian Dorman spitting mad.
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Victoria, British Columbia
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Posted - 07/13/2012 : 4:32 PM
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Originally posted by Dru
The logic is like this. If someone breaks into your house, snapping the lock in the process, and steals a bunch of stuff, do you decide that therefore locks don't work, or that you need a better lock?
A gate is a gate is a gate within reason. Ways will always be found around them, especially in areas where off road vehicles are prevalent. Quite different from a building within the jurisdiction of fire and police, and electricity services.
Steventy is right. It seems asinine to expect to leave valuable equipment unguarded in an area prone to vandalism. I am not in the Chilliwack River valley very often and I've seen burnt out logging equipment three times. Foolish to leave it unguarded. |
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North Vancouver, BC
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Posted - 07/13/2012 : 5:12 PM
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Originally posted by jd22
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Originally posted by Dru
The logic is like this. If someone breaks into your house, snapping the lock in the process, and steals a bunch of stuff, do you decide that therefore locks don't work, or that you need a better lock?
A gate is a gate is a gate within reason. Ways will always be found around them, especially in areas where off road vehicles are prevalent. Quite different from a building within the jurisdiction of fire and police, and electricity services.
Steventy is right. It seems asinine to expect to leave valuable equipment unguarded in an area prone to vandalism. I am not in the Chilliwack River valley very often and I've seen burnt out logging equipment three times. Foolish to leave it unguarded.
I should have been more fair. In hindsight it's easy to call it foolish. This is a fairly extreme act of vandalism and could be called unexpected. He probably considered the occasional stolen fuel, etc. to be a cost of doing business and cheaper than hiring security. In a similar way, I expect that my vehicle will occasionally be broken into at a trailhead but I don't expect that someone will burn it down to the ground.
However, looking forward I think the only practical option he has is to implement basic enhanced security measures. The police won't be able to help him and vigilante justice is probably not an option he wants to follow through with. |
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 Best grilled cheese maker ever
Whitehorse, YUKON
Canada
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Posted - 07/13/2012 : 7:04 PM
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$50,000 deductible!
I thought $300 was bad. |
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Richmond, BC
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Posted - 07/13/2012 : 10:43 PM
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Some of the destruction he attributes to "drunken punks [from Vancouver] trying to show off to their 16-year-old girlfriends."
If that isn't another redneck statement of the year. Your so-called drunken punks and Vandals already live up there Dorman. They're in your community and vandalizing vehicles at trail heads.
Sounds to me like he's pi$$ed someone off, but who knows. |
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Hope, BC
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Posted - 07/14/2012 : 06:15 AM
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Originally posted by pmicheals
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Some of the destruction he attributes to "drunken punks [from Vancouver] trying to show off to their 16-year-old girlfriends."
If that isn't another redneck statement of the year. Your so-called drunken punks and Vandals already live up there Dorman. They're in your community and vandalizing vehicles at trail heads.
Sounds to me like he's pi$$ed someone off, but who knows.
You are very right, it is quite possible he pissed off an employee, and an employee did this. |
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Want to bet this results in more locked gates?
