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Maple Ridge, BC
Canada
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Posted - 06/29/2012 : 07:35 AM
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| What can I do to help prevent or lessen its environmental impact? |
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North Vancouver, BC
Canada
1263 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2012 : 08:02 AM
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| Solve the worlds energy needs bypassing the use of oil and gas. |
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 Best grilled cheese maker ever
Whitehorse, YUKON
Canada
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Langley, BC
Canada
1078 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2012 : 09:03 AM
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Where does the energy for the Tesla come from?
What fuels the heavy equipment in the mines for the materials required to manufacture the batteries?
What fuels the ships that transport everything across the sea? |
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Squamish, British Columbia
Canada
1008 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2012 : 11:53 AM
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It's not even about the use of gas or the production of energy.
Even if 100% of the worlds energy needs was through renewable means the demand for oil would still be huge.
About half the oil produced goes into the products we use (I don't mean energy from oil makes these products, I mean the products are made of oil)
Here's a partial list of items we'd need to stop using so that the world could no longer need oil.
http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/classroom/wwo/petroleum.pdf
My issue with the pipeline is that Enbridge's safety standards just aren't good enough. The company has repeatedly shown it can't be trusted with upholding world class standards for pipeline safety.
http://thetyee.ca/News/2012/06/29/Enbridge-Safety-Standards/
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1078 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2012 : 3:19 PM
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Originally posted by Cherry Pirate
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Also, Darren, as much as I like the Tesla, it's hard to deny that the process of mining and transporting the lithium for the lithium ion batteries is quite costly and the several components of the batteries themselves represent a non-renewable resource.
Oh, I hear ya. I was kinda joking about the whole car anyways, as they are pricey bastards, to say the least. That said, I think electric vehicles are pretty cool.
HAHA, well I assume Darren was being facetious! You definitely would not want to buy a Tesla' motor's car, unless your very rich, and want a little play toy....in which case, you aren't exactly Mr. Environment! Otherwise, it would be absurd. |
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Terrace, BC
957 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2012 : 3:52 PM
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What can I do to help prevent or lessen its environmental impact?
Be prepared for some uncivil civil disobedience.
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Vancouver
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Posted - 06/29/2012 : 4:52 PM
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Originally posted by Cherry Pirate
What can I do to help prevent or lessen its environmental impact?
In general a dual approach of objecting to it and reducing your use of energy is what's best. If you're looking for specifics, there are many ways to object to it and innumerable ways to use less energy. Having a better picture of the thoughts behind the question would help in offering answers. |
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Maple Ridge, BC
Canada
344 Posts |
Posted - 06/30/2012 : 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by sgRant
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Originally posted by Cherry Pirate
What can I do to help prevent or lessen its environmental impact?
In general a dual approach of objecting to it and reducing your use of energy is what's best. If you're looking for specifics, there are many ways to object to it and innumerable ways to use less energy. Having a better picture of the thoughts behind the question would help in offering answers.
I certainly work to reduce my energy use, however there's no denying I'm one of the worst energy users I know. My job requires constant car use and my car (a volvo wagon) isn't so efficient. I try to bike and transit when I'm not working, but that only saves so much.
On the other hand, I was thinking there might be political pressure points I could assist in pushing. My days of protesting are behind me because it has clearly lost all effect on political process. I remember marching in a rally against the war in high school and realizing most people there were just ineffectual hippies that used rallies as a expo for their own pet causes, sometimes very very tentatively linked to the actual cause. |
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Squamish, British Columbia
Canada
1008 Posts |
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Chilliwack, BC
Canada
570 Posts |
Posted - 07/03/2012 : 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by Cherry Pirate
What can I do to help prevent or lessen its environmental impact?
VOTE!
And make it an informed vote. You may need to join a political party to select a decent leader. It's clear that Nathan Cullen is against northern gateway just as it is clear as a bell that both the current governments of BC and Canada will sell our futures for Enbridge's gain.
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Mountain Grammar Police
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 Sardonic sandbagging scoundrel, Cascade Climbers lobotomized spraymeister, space blanket flyer, new millennium vulgarian betaboy and friend to all squids
Climbing, a mountain
Canada
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Posted - 07/03/2012 : 10:35 AM
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| The squeaky wheel gets the grease - start squeaking. |
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Maple Ridge, BC
Canada
344 Posts |
Posted - 07/17/2012 : 08:21 AM
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Originally posted by Dru
The squeaky wheel gets the grease - start squeaking.
Well Dru, I've been getting up every morning at dawn, and standing in my street squeaking like damn mouse and so far nothing. I hope you're right about this plan because the neighbours won't make eye contact anymore.
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Originally posted by leimrod
Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3bKmz4od3g
Then go here to act, it gives you all the needed information: http://www.pacificwild.org/site/take_action.html
That was an abnormally good documentary. Beautifully shot, nicely woven together narrative and it didn't get too sanctimonious about its message (after all, topical films are supposed to be about convincing the people not yet convinced). Clearly not the point of you suggesting it, but I thought I would give my ringing endorsement as a film buff and maker.
I'm following up on that link. I encourage others to do so as their sensibilities dictate. |
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Outward Bound author of the Seinfeld Thread, who builds his own snowshoes
Troy, MT
USA
3125 Posts |
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Intermediate Member
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Burnaby, BC
Canada
735 Posts |
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Posted - 07/19/2012 : 2:56 PM
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Stop electing Conservatives!
Oh, wait! The thread title is 'Enbridge Pipeline' and I just implied that the government's policies in regard to the environment were wrong. So now I guess I'm an environmental terrorist as well as anti-Canadian!
Darn. It's going to suck being locked away in a concentration camp. |
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Burnaby, BC
Canada
735 Posts |
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Salmon Arm, BC
Canada
894 Posts |
Posted - 07/24/2012 : 09:25 AM
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If Enbridge is built, BC will mean "Billowing Crude"
Or, as a twist on this recently-discarded slogan: "British Columbia - It's the Oiliest Place on Earth!" |
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Chilliwack, BC
Canada
570 Posts |
Posted - 07/24/2012 : 1:54 PM
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How about Ms. Clark's recent proposal? Hey Alberta, if you meet our conditions (send us money, listen to our FN people, get the world's best spill team ready to clean your mess, and pass environmental review...) and you can have your pipeline.
'No' would have been a better proposal.
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Edmonton, AB
Canada
217 Posts |
Posted - 07/24/2012 : 3:42 PM
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| The pipeline should be headed east from Alberta-based upgraders to refineries in (and serving) Eastern Canada, but why would we want to do something in our own country's interest when we can serve China's? |
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Qualicum Beach, BC
Canada
1307 Posts |
Posted - 07/24/2012 : 4:44 PM
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| Arcturus, you hit the nail on the button. |
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