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Moses
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God fearin' music packin' animal BBQin' funny trip reportin'.... cheese lovin' MH lover who skinny dips in Ling secret lakes

Somewhere between pomp & circumstance, British Columbia
Canada

1400 Posts

 Posted - 02/10/2004 :  10:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply to this posting
I was just on the Manning web site and discovered it will now cost me $5.00 per person, per night, to stay at Mowich, Buckhorn, Nicomen, ect. I would give my nod of approval if I felt the monies collected would go to trail maintanence, conservation, and such, but history dictates that these things are merely cash-grabs.

If I was the real "Moses", I'd part Georgia Strait and walk on over to Victoria and say to the Pharoh "Let my people go!!!(hiking for free,please.)"

(Where's a divine staff when you need one.)

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dcongrav
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 Posted - 02/10/2004 :  10:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If there were more effective lobbying actions against these kind of actions then solutions would be found but unfortunately outdoors people are on the whole not very effective lobbyists.

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Edited by - dcongrav on 02/10/2004 10:48 PM
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Moses
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God fearin' music packin' animal BBQin' funny trip reportin'.... cheese lovin' MH lover who skinny dips in Ling secret lakes

Somewhere between pomp & circumstance, British Columbia
Canada

1400 Posts

 Posted - 02/10/2004 :  10:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Shhh. Don't let Joe Foy hear you say that. (Head of Western Canada Wliderness Comittee, saviour of parks.)

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drifter
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Makati
Philippines

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 Posted - 02/10/2004 :  11:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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haidabear
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delta, bc
Canada

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 Posted - 02/11/2004 :  12:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Welcome to the new reality. I deal with parks people, both provincial and federal, who are asked to maintain continuing levels of service, maintenance, and research while coping with reduced staff and resources. Managers have been told to seek alternate sources of revenue as the national and provincial troughs are meager.

As to whether or not more tax dollars need to be directed to parks is another debate. As far as I know, and have been told by park personnel, the revenue garnered through camping fees is reinvested in the park itself. Even with that, it is a struggle to provide the minimum of services.

MecKid
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right wingin', rock climbin', photo takin', computer geek

North Van, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 02/11/2004 :  4:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This should not come as any surprise so anyone. For a long time now we have been asked to do more with less. Ever try to get ahold of someone at Air Canada? You'll be on hold for a LONG while. Ever needed to talk to someone at Visa about a suspicious charge? Again, be prepared to be on hold for a while. Ditto for the Royal Bank, or any service oriented industry. It sucks, but it's reality.

Hiking_nut
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trigger happy, bear bangin', beer swillin', dirt-lovin', event organizin', hell raisin' REDneck

Maple Ridge (Redneckville), BC
Canada

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 Posted - 02/11/2004 :  5:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've been cruising the Manning Park websites (Provincial Park and Manning Park resort) and can't find any referece to said backcountry fees. It is hidden somewhere?

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Moses
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God fearin' music packin' animal BBQin' funny trip reportin'.... cheese lovin' MH lover who skinny dips in Ling secret lakes

Somewhere between pomp & circumstance, British Columbia
Canada

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 Posted - 02/11/2004 :  8:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey Nut. Look at the provincial government site at www.gov.bc.ca/bcparks, follow the links to E.C Manning park, then scroll down till you see Back-Country Camping Fees. I'm afraid that it is a reality for the coming hiking season. Boo-Hoo. One of the the reasons I love this sport/hobby/lifestyle is, once you get all your stuff, it's pretty much free. I don't want to feel like I'm being taxed to death on the trail as well as in the city. I go to the mountains to escape from all this cr*p. Shouldn't my 70% taxes that I already pay cover some trail maintanence?

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exscape
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Outdoors addicted flyfishing, skiing, snowshoeing, hiking car crooner and resident motormouth

Da'Wack, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 02/11/2004 :  9:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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There is a day-use vehicle parking fee of $1.00/vehicle for the first hour OR $3.00 or $5.00/vehicle/day at 28 parks on Vancouver Island and in the Lower Mainland.

Park users can purchase an annual parking pass, which will allow unlimited vehicle parking in all 28 parks, for a cost of $50 for the 2004 camping season. The pass is scheduled to increase to $75 in April of this year.


well, well, well.... better pick mine up before April!

and here's the link to the fees for next year... so much for new gear.... http://wlapwww.gov.bc.ca/bcparks/fees/userfees.pdf

Hmmm can't get the pasted version of the link to work, it has added characters when posted. Why is that Jim?

http:/ / wlap www.gov.bc.ca/bcparks/fees/userfees.pdf

ah-ha Paste the above in your browser and get rid of the spacing around the "/ / wlap w" and you'll have your link

Edited by - exscape on 02/11/2004 10:03 PM

BCer
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Buntzen roving stealthy beer mule and artist, aspiring weird image findmaster who loves BC

lower mainland
Canada

1647 Posts

 Posted - 02/11/2004 :  10:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've noticed that too with there site and it's the only site that I know of that does that. Could it be a security thing or something?

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BCbear
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Richmond, BC
Canada

298 Posts

 Posted - 02/14/2004 :  12:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I noticed on their website that Widgeon Creek campsite as well as the three Pitt Lake Marine Park campsites are now paid sites!

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