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JamesCan
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 Posted - 05/16/2012 :  12:15 PM  Show Profile  Reply to this posting
I'm taking my 11 and 13-year old kids backpacking this summer for the first time. So I'm looking for suggestions for a good 3-person 3-season tent. Since it's likely I'm carrying the whole tent myself so I'm looking for something under 6 lbs. Any suggestions are very much appreciated.

Edited by - JamesCan on 05/16/2012 8:37 PM

johngenx
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 Posted - 05/16/2012 :  12:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are really light 3-P tents, but they lack living space and are made from pretty fragile fabrics. Great for serious backpacking, but with kids, the fun evaporates quickly if you have to spend a rainy day in the tent and everyone is on top of each other.

We have an old MSR Mutha Hubba, and found it a great 3-P 3-S tent for backpacking with the family. Pretty light, but good interior space and two doors/vestibules makes life a little easier too.

The newer MH is lighter and updated in terms of materials and the bathtub comes up a bit higher.
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camshaft
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 Posted - 05/16/2012 :  1:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree with johngenx
A huge factor other then weight is what price range are you wanting to spend ?
You can't go wrong with MSR, customer service rocks

Its that or a tarp style tent with bug screen

FamilyGuy
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 Posted - 05/16/2012 :  1:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you are okay with single walls, I would recommend this:

http://www.tarptent.com/rainshadow2.html

You can set it up with trekking poles or have the tent supplied with dedicated tent poles. Massive room (truly) for 42 oz.

Double walls, you could look at this:

http://www.tarptent.com/hogback.html

65oz but again with massive room for 4. Palatial for 3.

Osbos
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Southern Vancouver Island, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 05/16/2012 :  4:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have a look at Mountain Hardware tents.
http://www.mountainhardwear.ca/
They are made with lightweight materials and are quite roomy.

JamesCan
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 Posted - 05/16/2012 :  8:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I just saw the Mutha Hubba is 30% off at around $300 at backcountry.com. Not sure if we'll also see a price reduction in Canada soon.

Johngenx - I read about the condensation issue of the Mutha Hubba. What was your experience with that?

johngenx
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 Posted - 05/16/2012 :  8:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JamesCan


Johngenx - I read about the condensation issue of the Mutha Hubba. What was your experience with that?



We have about 300 nights on our MH, and it's not been an issue. BUT, we also use it in the Rockies, which is quite dry. The only thing that's worn out now is the zippers. The door zippers are on their last legs, and I'm not sure if it's worth to repair, as new zippers can be pretty pricey.

We have a Black Diamond Squall mountaineering tent that we've been using as our family back-packing tent. It's a bit roomier than the MH, but weighs more.

busguy
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 Posted - 05/16/2012 :  9:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Some 3 person tents can be a bit snug for 3 decent sized people.

We use this for our family of 4 and it's light enough that I use it when it's only 3 of us or even sometimes when there is only 2 of us :

http://www.bobwards.com/SIERRA%20DESIGNS-Lightning-XT-4-Tent-82472

Same weight as the Mutha Hubba with 17 sq feet more room.

It won a Backpacker Magazine award a few years ago : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr5IS68mgM4


This is the newer version : http://www.backcountry.com/sierra-designs-lightning-ht-4-tent-4-person-3-season

If you buy anything from Backcountry.com make sure you link in through one of the cash back sites like mrrebates.com or fatwallet.com which will then give you cash back on your purchase. Those two sites are currently offering 7% and 6% back on your purchase at backcountry and I have seen them lately offering as much as 10% back.

prother
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Qualicum Beach, BC
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 Posted - 05/16/2012 :  9:18 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The MSR hubba series of tents now have an added vestibule attachment available, that will make a lightweight addition to any of their Hubba series and probably other MSR tents, as well. These add on vestibules create added room to store gear, cook or make bed room for a child or a pet. They work well in the snow.

joker
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 Posted - 05/17/2012 :  04:00 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You might want to check out the Big Agnes tents as well.

I have 2 of their tents and would recommend them. My 3 person, 3 season tent is their discontinued Emerald Mountain SL3 series. Even with an additional zipon vestibule it is under 6lbs (the tent only was under 5 lbs) but they no longer seem to offer the additional vestibule on their current lines. With my tent the biggest problem is sometimes its size; it's so big that sometimes it's hard to find a spot that it can go up. Second problem is that other backcountry campers might snicker at you thinking you packed in a car camping tent

Here are two links to similar tents (in design and size) to mine...
https://www.bigagnes.com/Products/Detail/Tent/CopperSpurUL32012

https://www.bigagnes.com/Products/Detail/Tent/jackrabbitsl3

ps. Whichever tent you choose an Integral Design tarp would be a good addition. Their Guides Siltarp 2 is huge and light weight (2.4 * 3 meters & 440 grams) so needless to say this can be setup over a door to act like an awning and can provide some dry sitting area. Mine goes with me on all but my lightweight solo trips.
http://www.mec.ca/AST/ShopMEC/Tents/LightShelters/PRD~5013-139/integral-designs-guides-siltarp-2.jsp

Edited by - joker on 05/17/2012 04:15 AM

Trail Talk
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 Posted - 05/17/2012 :  06:52 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ditto on Big Agnes. I've one season with a Fly Creek UL3 and am totally amazed at how light this tent is! If the cost doesn't scare you off, its a great choice. OTOH, the footprint is ridiculously overpriced but an MEC Tarn 3 footprint will fit at only $27. Good luck with your choice.

Blucruisin
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in the valley, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 05/17/2012 :  10:55 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Another vote for Big Agnes.

We have the Big Agnes Copper Spur UL3 tent and love it. Prior to buying a new 3-man/3-season ultra light I did alot of research and found this was the one that had what we were looking for with the best reviews. Big bucks but well worth it. We have our dog sleeping in it with us and it's survived him without an issue (he's a large lab). No issues with condensation either unlike my MSR Hubba (we live on the west coast were it is often very damp). Don't know where you're located but we picked ours up at REI in Bellingham.

Cheers!

Edited by - Blucruisin on 05/17/2012 10:56 AM
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Moses
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 Posted - 05/17/2012 :  7:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I used a MH Light Wedge 3 with my kids. Great tent!
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camshaft
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 Posted - 05/17/2012 :  8:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Your best bet is ordering it from the USA

300 bucks is the cheapest I can find it right now
http://www.bigskycountry.com/page/item.htm?id=422089087&b_a=GoogleBase&ne_ppc_id=1183&ne_key_id=24826715




quote:
Originally posted by JamesCan

Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I just saw the Mutha Hubba is 30% off at around $300 at backcountry.com. Not sure if we'll also see a price reduction in Canada soon.

Johngenx - I read about the condensation issue of the Mutha Hubba. What was your experience with that?

cambium
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 Posted - 05/17/2012 :  9:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Take along some DuctTape if you think that child-induced damage may occur. Great for quick patches.

JamesCan
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 Posted - 05/17/2012 :  9:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Camshaft - I think I have pretty much decided on the Mutha Hubba. There is a friends and family sale on at Atmosphere so I will be able to get it for around $320.

The Big Agnes Copper Spur UL3 is very appealing but it's over budget for me. The tarp tents were also very interesting but I think I will start with a traditional model.

Thanks everyone again for so many good suggestions. There is so much to learn from your experience in this forum.
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BillyGoat
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Chilliwack, BC
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 Posted - 05/17/2012 :  9:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You could also have a look at the REI QuarterDome T2 plus which is under 3 bucks and is quite roomy.

JamesCan
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 Posted - 05/18/2012 :  09:10 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I bought the Mutha Hubba today after considering all the options all of you suggested. Thanks so much everyone!

ceasar385
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 Posted - 05/18/2012 :  09:59 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The MSR carbon reflex is a great tent, incredibly light and has a lot of room. It can actually fit 3 people. The only down side is the price. Such a large super light tent does not come cheap. I have one and love it

joker
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Brentwood Bay, BC
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 Posted - 05/18/2012 :  10:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hard to go wrong with MSR tents... I have a 4 season 2 person tent of theirs and love it and it has always been a coin toss between them and Big Agnes for me.

have fun with your new tent :)
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camshaft
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 Posted - 05/19/2012 :  10:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The one thing that I found anoying with the mutha compaired to the hubba is the pole design and not quite as free standing. The Hubba needs to be pegged out or is sags and the fly touches the inner. Not a huge deal just annoying as it can start dripping with condensation.

Beyond that its a great tent for the price...
But with all MSR's sticking a stick in the top of the fly to help with air flow is a Huge must.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_7ONoMjDIc
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