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over the hills and far away
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 canine loving, machete-toting bushwhacking lake seeker, Indiana Jones hat-wearing off-road 4x4 guru
Surrey Hole, BC
Canada
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Posted - 05/10/2012 : 10:02 PM
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The remaining sheep were also relocated — to the other side of Arrow Lake, where one was then eaten by a cougar.
haaha, thats fakked.
I lived there for years, my Mom's gonna have a chuckle at this nonsense media garb..she is a long term resident, and has plenty of encounters.
Things are alot different when you actualy live in this area, it fairly remote, and in many cases people will take matters in their own hands. Too bad the grizz had to go, I dont agree 100%, but see it from another point also.
Maybe release could have adopted one.. |
Edited by - Aqua Terra on 05/10/2012 10:18 PM |
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North Vancouver, BC
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Richmond, BC
Canada
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Posted - 05/10/2012 : 10:35 PM
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Originally posted by Aqua Terra
The remaining sheep were also relocated — to the other side of Arrow Lake, where one was then eaten by a cougar.
haaha, thats fakked.
I lived there for years, my Mom's gonna have a chuckle at this nonsense media garb..she is a long term resident, and has plenty of encounters.
Things are alot different when you actualy live in this area, it fairly remote, and in many cases people will take matters in their own hands. Too bad the grizz had to go, I dont agree 100%, but see it from another point also.
Maybe release could have adopted one..
If you read into the wildlife act, you'll find that the priority is to "preserve livestock" from predator attack. Normally the issue is with cougars and wolves but yes grizzly's figure into it also once they have found a readily available smorgasbord which they will keep coming back to. But here's a thought. How much does it cost to Tranquilize and relocate a Grizzly versus killing and disposing of remains including man hours? I would think it's pretty close to being the same pending on how remote the area is? Open for discussion and I'll pass my thoughts along. |
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Richmond, BC
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Posted - 05/10/2012 : 10:41 PM
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DeBoon said he's never seen anything like this, and says its likely because the predators are coming out of hibernation earlier than usual this year.
Go figure: Did anyone give some thought to the fact that snowpack lasted longer last year and food sources were less abundent? For sure they would wake up earlier. Last fall I observed a very gaunt Grizzly crossing the road near Callaghan Olympic park. It may be the same this year again. |
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Posted - 05/10/2012 : 10:56 PM
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| Ranchers putting livestock into the backcountry are going to have to account for some losses to predators. & some predators may well continue to migrate away from the livestock if they had their fill and need to continue their normal habits elsewhere. Killing them is overkill. |
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canine loving, machete-toting bushwhacking lake seeker, Indiana Jones hat-wearing off-road 4x4 guru
Surrey Hole, BC
Canada
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Posted - 05/10/2012 : 11:06 PM
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Dont know about cost and time required, but it would be days and several peoples wages and trucks and fuel and more paperwork..
This is a common incident there, this was only reported to media because of the nunmber of sheep and cougar incident.
Predators are very common there, weekly encounters all year round, close to homes or schools or the general store. In most cases nothing happens.
When several live stock go down, things change, and the result is often frowned upon (by outsiders)
I have herded cattle on horseback and once had the herd spook and loose control. It was a large grizz trying to take a calf. There was no calling the warden on that occasion. |
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canine loving, machete-toting bushwhacking lake seeker, Indiana Jones hat-wearing off-road 4x4 guru
Surrey Hole, BC
Canada
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Posted - 05/10/2012 : 11:08 PM
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Originally posted by cambium
Ranchers putting livestock into the backcountry are going to have to account for some losses to predators. & some predators may well continue to migrate away from the livestock if they had their fill and need to continue their normal habits elsewhere. Killing them is overkill.
Cambium
I dont think this was backcountry Ranchers, but farmland and private properties withing the small valley. I know the Ostrich Farm owners and that is definately a fully fenced facility under close supervision. |
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Edmonton, Alberta
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Posted - 05/11/2012 : 09:45 AM
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Unfortunately, its humanity that has become the plague on planet Earth, not the vastly outnumbered wildlife. For some reason, we both fear and admire carnivores. The bear is the state symbol of California, yet they killed them off years ago. We sent down wolves to help recover that population, only to have them hunted once again.
Our Canada National Parks Act states "Maintenance or restoration of ecological integrity, through the protection of natural resources and natural processes, shall be the first priority of the Minister when considering all aspects of the management of parks."
LOL; trains, towns, and roadside tourism are the true priorities it would seem. |
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Hope, BC
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Posted - 05/11/2012 : 11:32 AM
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| If I was a bear, sheep would be the last animal I'd eat. Ever try chomping on a bag of cotton balls? I haven't but I could just imagine... |
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Kamloops, B.C.
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Posted - 05/11/2012 : 11:43 AM
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canine loving, machete-toting bushwhacking lake seeker, Indiana Jones hat-wearing off-road 4x4 guru
Surrey Hole, BC
Canada
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Posted - 05/11/2012 : 9:37 PM
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Originally posted by AcesHigh
If I was a bear, sheep would be the last animal I'd eat. Ever try chomping on a bag of cotton balls? I haven't but I could just imagine...
Why do Newfies wear gumboots? (Bad joke about to start here)
Chris, check your email |
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Richmond, BC
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Posted - 05/12/2012 : 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by Aqua Terra
I have herded cattle on horseback and once had the herd spook and loose control. It was a large grizz trying to take a calf. There was no calling the warden on that occasion.
Always wondered why you sport that favourite stetson of yours. Now we know.   |
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Richmond, BC
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Posted - 05/12/2012 : 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by Aqua Terra
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Originally posted by AcesHigh
If I was a bear, sheep would be the last animal I'd eat. Ever try chomping on a bag of cotton balls? I haven't but I could just imagine...
Why do Newfies wear gumboots? (Bad joke about to start here)
Chris, check your email
There were once bad jokes about why the PGE freight trains (PGE = PleaseGoEasy rail line)would stop at sidings longer than usual on the way to Prince George......ok we'll stop there. |
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Bears shot for eating sheep, if you hadn't heard
