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Vancouver, BC
Canada
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Posted - 05/07/2012 : 11:22 PM
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It is always refreshing to hear from the guns and bibles crowd. Fortunately they tend to congregate in Alberta, or Surrey.
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Posted - 05/07/2012 : 11:46 PM
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it had me chuckling a wee bit to read their opinions, especially about the guy that loves alpine lakes and remarks how hard it is to get away from everything or everyone.
Calling us 'leaf lickers'...that's a good one! |
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Kootenay Bud
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Posted - 05/08/2012 : 07:11 AM
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Smurf Village, BC
Canada
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Posted - 05/08/2012 : 07:31 AM
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I am a proud leaf licker. Ack, was that poison ivy? |
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Smurf Village, BC
Canada
1497 Posts |
Posted - 05/08/2012 : 07:37 AM
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Perhaps a dumb question...
In terms of location, could there be a difference in environmentally sensitive habitats? Let's forget about snow sports for a second, since there would be no difference when vegetation is covered up. But in the summer, offroading in the alpine seems pretty different in BC vs considerably drier Alberta. Less damaging perhaps? Well, at least, less visibly damaging.
As for hunting, well, I think there's another thread on that for the meatatarians. |
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Finally stopping that crazy suffering that is ice, climbing to concentrate on great ski tours!
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Posted - 05/08/2012 : 07:38 AM
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Calgary, Alberta
Canada
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Posted - 05/08/2012 : 07:57 AM
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It's so funny how people like to group themselves. The whole "us" and "them." I'm sure C.T. has critics all over the place, including within C.T. The majority of ClubTread's user base is from B.C. and many posters have been critical of Albertans.
Your thread is a good example. This thread should be titled "C.T. has Snowandmud.com critics." No where on that site does it say it's an Alberta forum. A quick look at their index shows they have posters across North America. Even in the link you provided, there is a guy from Vancouver criticizing a post on ClubTread.
You don't get a complimentary gun, bible, snowmobile, atv or pick-up truck when you cross the Alberta border.
I've lived in Alberta since 1991 and have been hiking lots since I arrived. I think I've seen two dirtbikes and have never come across a snowmobile or atv. There are designated areas where snowmobiles and atvs are allowed. I have not noticed the "leaf lickers" and snowandmud types get into each other's way.
While I haven't done much hiking in B.C., most areas I've gone into I saw signs of motor vehicles. There were a ton of atvs while hiking around the Okanagan. I saw three dirt bikes and an atv just hiking up Mount Arrowsmith. It seems to me that in B.C. there are a lot more shared trails and a lot more "us" and "them" battles. |
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Vancouver, British Columbia
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Posted - 05/08/2012 : 08:16 AM
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Originally posted by Marko
Your thread is a good example. This thread should be titled "C.T. has Snowandmud.com critics." No where on that site does it say it's an Alberta forum. A quick look at their index shows they have posters across North America. Even in the link you provided, there is a guy from Vancouver criticizing a post on ClubTread.
Well said. |
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Posted - 05/08/2012 : 08:27 AM
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Marko's on to something here. I don't know when or how the Albertan = Republican parallel got so established. The whole idea that if you love the eagle and the Constitution and apple pie after church on Sundays, you also value money over the environment, ripping shit up with guns and two-stroke engines, and oppose reproductive and sexual equality.
The fact is, an average Albertan may enjoy hunting, have conservative economic leanings but favor more liberal social policies, love both dirt-biking and backcountry skiing, and work 10/4 shifts (if he's lucky) in Fort Mac to support his family. Yes, there are a few that fit the stereotype, but there are a few pot-smoking hippies in B.C. that do the same. Humans are complicated and diverse, and the Alberta I've experienced for 30 years is nothing like the stereotypes I hear from Eastern and West-Coast Canadians. |
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Trail blazin', backcountry bushwackin', pine huntin', photo takin', long winded story teller
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Posted - 05/08/2012 : 08:30 AM
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Well at least that will be one club that doesn't come to BC and mud up the place and get killed by avalanches or they will suffer the wrath of CT.
It's nice to be King.  |
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Calgary, Alberta
Canada
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Posted - 05/08/2012 : 08:56 AM
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The Albertan stereotype is fascinating. The recent elections had slogans like "Alberta is making a decision" and "Albertans are going to the polls."
During the elections, there was a test done. A classroom was asked to describe what is an "Albertan." They all wrote down what they thought and were then asked whether they fit that description. Apparently none of them fit their own definition of an "Albertan."
There is a belief that this is part of the reason there is so much voter apathy. The experiment also shows that the stereotypes may not describe the majority of the population.
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opinionated-stove huggin'-fleece wearin'-arse burnin' hill virgin
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Canada
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Posted - 05/08/2012 : 09:22 AM
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| People often the mistake of extrapolating the character of a forum to the whole population of the area most of the contributors are from. Agree with them or not, they still have a point and a little criticism now and again can't hurt. |
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Posted - 05/08/2012 : 09:38 AM
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The first posting at the top of the page is what led me to the 'albertan connection' although I have no idea what that forum's home-base is. We do know that a lot of albertans enjoy BC's backcountry in the snow season.
quote..Has anyone stumbled onto clubtread.com? It is a big anti-motor, tree hugger site. The evil opposite of S&M. I was searching for someinfo on the Trans Canada Trail system when this site popped up under"Peace River Trail- Don't Go!", or “more snowmobiler deaths in BC”.What I found was disturbing and the more I looked into this site the more itbothered me! I didn’t know Albertan's were considered so low by some of thesepeople and they are so self-righteous.[blue]
This following part grabbed my attention, and considering how a recent thread got locked undoubtedly due to the language and intractableness, this poster has a point ...
quote...[blue] Worse yet is how there is no filter on the language at all! Some of the postings contain ugly comments directed at Alberta people but they seem to also spread the hate for really everyone who isnot part of their opinion of what the outdoors are truly for. I know this isjust the ranting’s of a bunch of douche bags but check it out and you will seewhat I mean! |
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Victoria, BC
Canada
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Posted - 05/08/2012 : 09:56 AM
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| Honestly I believe that on a country wide scale, stereotyping British Columbians happens more often than stereotyping Albertans. That site does not even come close to being the only source of distaste for us. We are after all, a very arrogant, self entitled and painfully liberal mutation of the rest of Canada. |
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Kamloops, B.C.
Canada
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Posted - 05/08/2012 : 10:02 AM
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| having lived in both provinces for most of my adult life. I would have to say there are more hillbilly rednecks in BC than Alberta. Leave the lower mainland and guns and bibles are huge. You leaf lickers must live in the GVRD. Wearing hemp clothes and birkenstocks smoking weed and doing yoga. What? that stereotype only part true, go figure. |
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Victoria, BC
Canada
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Posted - 05/08/2012 : 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by omegarun
having lived in both provinces for most of my adult life. I would have to say there are more hillbilly rednecks in BC than Alberta. Leave the lower mainland and guns and bibles are huge. You leaf lickers must live in the GVRD. Wearing hemp clothes and birkenstocks smoking weed and doing yoga. What? that stereotype only part true, go figure.
Interesting.
In your own opinion, does BC have any great advantages over Alberta? Or Alberta over BC? I mean what is it besides blind patriotism (on a province/state level instead of country, don't know a term for that) that makes one place so much better than the next?
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Posted - 05/08/2012 : 10:08 AM
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I have also never met ATV/dirt bikes on the trail in Alberta. Seen lots of them along the highway near Nordegg but never on the trail, even in unprotected David Thompson Country. I've seen snowmobiles in the Rockies only delivering supplies to and breaking trail for guests of Tonquin Valley and Skoki lodges. That's all. Once when I was caught up in a snowstorm in Tonquin Valley, I was given a ride to the lodge and offered to stay there overnight.
I'm indifferent to motorized recreationists possibly because I've never met them in Alberta wilderness. I agree that the animosity between motorists and hikers is mostly a BC based phenomenon since many trails there are shared. Lots of motorized recreationists from Alberta come to BC as there are more opportunities for them. |
Edited by - Engor on 05/08/2012 11:00 AM |
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Trail blazin', backcountry bushwackin', pine huntin', photo takin', long winded story teller
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Posted - 05/08/2012 : 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by omegarun
having lived in both provinces for most of my adult life. I would have to say there are more hillbilly rednecks in BC than Alberta. Leave the lower mainland and guns and bibles are huge. You leaf lickers must live in the GVRD. Wearing hemp clothes and birkenstocks smoking weed and doing yoga. What? that stereotype only part true, go figure.
True, we have a lot of in house cleaning up to do especially in the interior but we are working on it and it takes one to know one so there. |
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Posted - 05/08/2012 : 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by HagensborgViking
Honestly I believe that on a country wide scale, stereotyping British Columbians happens more often than stereotyping Albertans. That site does not even come close to being the only source of distaste for us. We are after all, a very arrogant, self entitled and painfully liberal mutation of the rest of Canada.
It's all what your ears are sensitized to. The Newfie fisherman, the Alberta redneck, and the West Coast hippie might each have an equally legitimate argument for being the recipients of the most cohesive stereotype. Each carries with it a set of negative connotations which are simply not true for the majority of people who live in those areas.
Edit: The irony is when an Albertan makes a comment about a 'leaf-licker,' it just positions himself more clearly as a narrow-minded redneck. And when a British Columbian makes a comment about a 'guns-and-Bibles' Albertan, it further defines him as a self-entitled liberal mutant. To respond to one stereotype by throwing out another is equivalent to the pot calling the kettle retarded. |
Edited by - dav1481 on 05/08/2012 11:21 AM |
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Calgary, AB
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Posted - 05/08/2012 : 1:15 PM
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Originally posted by weedWhacker
It is always refreshing to hear from the guns and bibles crowd. Fortunately they tend to congregate in Alberta, or Surrey.
No kidding. Imaging how refreshing it is to be counted as an uneducated savage just for places I get my meat and poultry from and ways I choose to keep myself and loved ones safe. 
Engor, Marko - +1.
I slightly more negative to motor sports since they ruined a few my walk in hunts. But generally they are not an issue. Lack of enforcement is. (Thanks for years of starving SRD budgets)
Valid point on moderation and language on C.T. tho. |
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