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Chilliwack, BC
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Posted - 04/26/2012 : 3:47 PM
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What do people use for water containers when doing the broken islands?
I'm doing it with my family (6 of us) and been told to take 4L per person for each day.
That being said for 4 days I need to bring 96L of water! If I put that into 4L containers I need 24 containers. With that many containers it would get expensive! Unless you use milk jugs or something like that.
Thanks for any help.
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ALBANY, OR
USA
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Posted - 04/26/2012 : 4:48 PM
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Hi Paul, I have used a variety of containers for carrying water. I'm making an assumption that you will be seakayaking out there so the containers need to be somewhat abrasion resistant against the sides of the kayaks or anything else they may rub up against as well as not easily punctured if dropped on the beach.
I use several smaller containers rather than one or two large ones. First, they are easier to pack into a kayak and you can spread out the weight more easily. Secondly, if a container springs a leak, you don't lose the entire water supply.
For containers, I have used the bladders out of boxed wine, 2 liter pop bottles, juice jugs with screw on tops. Just make sure that the tops screw on tightly and won't pop off when you jam them into your boat. Nalgene bottles you use for hiking will work. Keep in mind that you need to "protect" your water while out in the islands. Raccoons will chew through the jugs or bags. If you are using some double kayaks, you might be able to up the size of the containers a bit because of the higher deck and roomier interior. Milk jugs might work if the top is secure.
Depending on the time of the year, your water requirements will vary. I take along bleach and rinse my dishes in a dilute solution after washing all of my dishes using sea water. I only use freshwater for drinking and cooking. I bathe using seawater. This limits the amount of freshwater I need each day to about 2 liters. But, families will probably not as frugal as me with usage. Seawater and a little bleach works great for handwashing.
There is water to be found in the Broken Islands but it isn't necessarily reliable. On Benson, if I remember right, there is an old cistern which can be a source. I have collected "seep" water on Turret Island. And I have collected rainwater but with a family you likely will not want to take the risk of running out.
Hope this helps some.
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It's not a city yet!!, BC
Canada
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Posted - 04/28/2012 : 10:44 PM
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Hope, BC
Canada
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada
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Posted - 04/29/2012 : 08:54 AM
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| any time i have canoed the B.I. group, we always use the MSR drom bags... they are available @ most outdoor stores, and they come in 4-6-and 10 litre versions.... they are soft and very durable. they can usually fit any place that you have room. They also have a nifty little feature of being able to fit a basic camp shower onto them.. Other than that you can look into a desalinator( brutally expensive, and bulky). I did the trip with 4 other couples(my wife and i) and have done it with just one other couple. Have fun, this is a very fun trip! One word of caution.... be mindful of the tides! |
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Posted - 04/29/2012 : 08:59 AM
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| I use Mylar wine bladders that you can get for a couple of bucks at make your own wine stores. They come with spigots, are easy to pack in a kayak, and stay cold on the bottom of the boat. When empty, they take up no space in the boat and make packing easier. I pack them behind the seat and near the front of the rear hatch. I usually pack 3L per day, but I drink a LOT of water. I bring fresh food and I fish or crab (don't depend on that), so not a lot of need for water for cooking, but I sometimes end up with dried food near the end of the trip. On my last 8 day trip on the water, I think I had about 4L left between my husband and me. |
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Posted - 04/29/2012 : 09:07 AM
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| I think most people can easily get by with much less than 4L per person per day. I think for two people for 5 days we took 4 x 4L of water in plastic milk/water jugs. When I was there last April, there was running water on Gibralter Island just south of the campsite as well. |
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Posted - 04/29/2012 : 1:44 PM
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I could not attach images as i received errors, so attached urls sorry
As Kathryne said Ubrew places sell the mylar wine bladders or even http://www.ecomarine.com/
For what consumption it all depends on temperatures, your exertion level and what your cooking.
noted above
mylar only down side is sharp objects puncturing bag
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_01hTZvejNog/TId02eKz5II/AAAAAAAABXU/TexweaOfiC8/s1600/DSCF2527.JPG
msr dromedary
http://casanovasadventures.com/catalog/water/msr_dromedary.jpg
or reliance, mec, CND tire etc, come in different sizes cheap,
http://dogcreektradingpost.com/ccdata/images/smallMain_54_711.jpg
depending on rig and size of your cockpit, i personally had miles of room at the bottom.
So rigged this up
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_j-Pv7CT7mnw/S5cAOA_mgMI/AAAAAAAAHZY/Ymx3PO1OSP4/IMG_0005.JPG
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Originally posted by Kathryne
I use Mylar wine bladders that you can get for a couple of bucks at make your own wine stores. They come with spigots, are easy to pack in a kayak, and stay cold on the bottom of the boat. When empty, they take up no space in the boat and make packing easier. I pack them behind the seat and near the front of the rear hatch. I usually pack 3L per day, but I drink a LOT of water. I bring fresh food and I fish or crab (don't depend on that), so not a lot of need for water for cooking, but I sometimes end up with dried food near the end of the trip. On my last 8 day trip on the water, I think I had about 4L left between my husband and me.
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Kootenay Bud
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Posted - 04/29/2012 : 2:55 PM
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People actually carry water on the Wet Coast? That's as ludicrous as eating peanut butter without the fat.
I've only kayaked the Broken Group once, but I've done lots of other sea kayak trips on the Wet Coast and I've never carried fresh water. A water filter is handy. |
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Posted - 04/29/2012 : 3:17 PM
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The Broken islands are pretty small, and water can be scarce during July/Aug, which is when most people go. Late Sept right through to June no problem with lack of water.
In fact kind of the opposite! |
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Posted - 04/30/2012 : 08:58 AM
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Originally posted by sandy
People actually carry water on the Wet Coast? That's as ludicrous as eating peanut butter without the fat.
I've only kayaked the Broken Group once, but I've done lots of other sea kayak trips on the Wet Coast and I've never carried fresh water. A water filter is handy.
I have been to the Broken Group four times (summer mostly) and not once have I found a reliable source of water. That said, I took the advice of those before me and brought water, so I guess I wasn't really looking.
Oh yes, and the mylar bags .... Ecomarine charges three times the price you can get them for at a ubrew. I think I got mine at a ubrew for $2/ea, and I can reuse them. Do watch out for crows pecking at your Mylar bags. We had that happen once to someone in our party. |
Edited by - Kathryne on 04/30/2012 09:00 AM |
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