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Hope, BC
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 02:59 AM
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To me it appears as the guy in the back is what we call in Canada, a "Dick".
I don't promote violence but I wasn't suprised he got a shot in the head. He sounded like an annoying mouth piece. He should of waited 3-5 minutes max and then went down the hill and wouldn't of had a problem. Not saying I'd pop him one if I was in front but he sure as hell seemed totally annoying. |
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Finally stopping that crazy suffering that is ice, climbing to concentrate on great ski tours!
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 05:55 AM
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I don't know how long he started before the guy in back, but the slower guy was a total dick. The faster guys asked nicely quite a few times to overtake.
Looks like jerk-culture has spread to NZ too... |
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Hope, BC
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 08:52 AM
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No difference between a ferrari on my ass on a one way street, beeping his horn and yelling at me to let him by because he has a faster car. While I simply give him the finger and continue on my regular routine.
The guy was riding his ass and shouldn't of been trailing that close to begin with, he should of taken a chill pill and let the guy go down, giving the guy some time to get well ahead. Totally looked like the guy in front was being abnormally pressured. Especially out in the wilderness without anyone else on the trail. It was like the guy in the back was almost trying to run the guy in front off the trail, remember we didn't see the first 5-10 minutes, the guy crying about the assualt is very likely the bad wolf in my eyes.
The answer is in the first 5-10 mins that he edited out of course. He started his camera at the beginning of the ride I believe further up. Nobody starts a gopro half way down.
Edited video trying to display the man in front as being a jerk...
That's what I'm calling and why, another fine example of why what you see on video isn't always what it seems. |
Edited by - AcesHigh on 04/11/2012 09:00 AM |
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Edmonton, Alberta
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 10:27 AM
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Originally posted by AcesHigh
No difference between a ferrari on my ass on a one way street, beeping his horn and yelling at me to let him by because he has a faster car. While I simply give him the finger and continue on my regular routine.
A world of difference. Obviously you don't trail run, mtn bike or even swim lanes in a swimming pool.
Common courtesy to let the faster person go by. Why ruin someone elses day by making them go your slow speed? Selfish.
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Hope, BC
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 11:01 AM
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Originally posted by booewen
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Originally posted by AcesHigh
No difference between a ferrari on my ass on a one way street, beeping his horn and yelling at me to let him by because he has a faster car. While I simply give him the finger and continue on my regular routine.
A world of difference. Obviously you don't trail run, mtn bike or even swim lanes in a swimming pool.
Common courtesy to let the faster person go by. Why ruin someone elses day by making them go your slow speed? Selfish.
Well like I said, I think there was a whole lot more to the story that we didn't see. It seemed by the tone of his voice and the way he was noticibly talking into the camera, putting on a show suddenly, he had already had discussions on the edited recording. He was probably an ignorant person at first, then decided he would be nice and put on a show for the camera. After being ignorant the cyclist in the front decided to just ignore him entirely which I wouldn't blame him.
Anyone riding right on my bumper deserves me to lock up my brakes.
This is a big difference between swimming and running. Ruin someones day? If someones day is going to be ruined because of someone going too slow, they have mental problems. |
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Maple Ridge, BC
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by booewen
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Originally posted by AcesHigh
No difference between a ferrari on my ass on a one way street, beeping his horn and yelling at me to let him by because he has a faster car. While I simply give him the finger and continue on my regular routine.
A world of difference. Obviously you don't trail run, mtn bike or even swim lanes in a swimming pool.
Common courtesy to let the faster person go by. Why ruin someone elses day by making them go your slow speed? Selfish.
Yeah, and even if the guy in the back was "being a dick" the guy in the front makes his day much nicer just letting the guy pass. He didn't because he was making a point. Also, I have no sympathy for people that choose to let things this minor get them to swing. |
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Hope, BC
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 11:47 AM
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Originally posted by Cherry Pirate
Also, I have no sympathy for people that choose to let things this minor get them to swing.
Neither do I, with what I seen there was nothing that should make the guy that angry, all the more reason there is likely much more about this story we don't know. Perhaps the guy in the back was overly agressive and or abusive before the section of the film we seen, yelling threats or nearly hitting his back tire, or more we don't know. I'm not going to judge the guy on the bike in the front on what little of the video is available. I will say however, I will guess that the guy in the front very likely knows proper bike etiquette.
Not many people out there punch people in the head for simply wanting to pass. |
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Finally stopping that crazy suffering that is ice, climbing to concentrate on great ski tours!
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 12:54 PM
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| Just going on the section of video I see, the guy in the back didn't do anything other than ask to go by. |
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Hope, BC
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 1:51 PM
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What's funny about it is the guy in the back telling the guy in front let me in front of you or we are going to have an accident. No different than me driving behind someone telling them to get out of my way or we are going to have an accident. If you hit someone from behind you are to blame.
This thread is a bit funny lol. It can be disputed til the cows come home.
If the gentleman who was second on to the trail simply waited 4 mins he would not of gotten a punch in the mouth heh.
Furthermore:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10797991 |
Edited by - AcesHigh on 04/11/2012 2:00 PM |
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Finally stopping that crazy suffering that is ice, climbing to concentrate on great ski tours!
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 2:12 PM
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| No, trail etiquette is different from driving on roads. |
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Hope, BC
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 3:14 PM
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| When the guy in the back mentions "I can't over take you, do you want me to just run you off the track instead?". I think that wasn't too polite. Then the guy in the yellow lets him drive by him. In the next video sequence they appear changed, the guy in the yellow is in the front again. So somewhere along the trail they passed each other again, without camera footage. Something seems fishy about this whole video to me, lots of editing. It almost seems like a hoax. |
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 6:32 PM
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It seemed clear from the video there were quite a few places where the trail separated for a ways. The slower cyclist could easily have taken one of the "sidings" without even stopping, and allow the faster cyclist to pass. This is such a contrast to road cyclists who take turns at the head of the group.
This reminds me of people who won't step out of a ski trail broken in deep snow to let faster skiers pass. You just can't get by if you have to break trail past them. |
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Happy go lucky, plaid wearin, postholin, safeway gaitor sportin, old-school film shootin, giver of many regards
Abbotsford, B.C.
Canada
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Posted - 04/12/2012 : 6:10 PM
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Originally posted by sgRant
It seemed clear from the video there were quite a few places where the trail separated for a ways. The slower cyclist could easily have taken one of the "sidings" without even stopping, and allow the faster cyclist to pass. This is such a contrast to road cyclists who take turns at the head of the group.
This reminds me of people who won't step out of a ski trail broken in deep snow to let faster skiers pass. You just can't get by if you have to break trail past them.
Same applies to snowshoeing...
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Happy go lucky, plaid wearin, postholin, safeway gaitor sportin, old-school film shootin, giver of many regards
Abbotsford, B.C.
Canada
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Posted - 04/12/2012 : 6:21 PM
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Looks like guy #1 finally gave him a chance to pass, but then the 2nd guy points a finger... which sets off # 1. Looks like a chance to pass was given.
Still both guys cycled at a pretty good pace. The first guy took a few of the sidelines but the 2nd guy did not or was not able to pass him then..... I think both guys needed to cool off.
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Whitehorse, YUKON
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Posted - 04/12/2012 : 8:54 PM
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Aces, I'm afraid you're wrong on this one. The dude in the front should have just pulled over and let the dude pass. Simple courtesy. It's totally different than being in a car.
Secondly, it's 'have' not 'of' |
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Posted - 04/26/2012 : 03:51 AM
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Ridiculous of course, the guy in the front was totally to blame.
Naturally, the guy in the back COULD have been doing horrible things before the vid....and then suddenly acted quite calmly and reasonably in the vid...no judge in the world would assume that the case, or act on such an improbabilty. Particulary since the attacker in the video even STATES that he just didn't like being "lectured" while he rode; he feels that he should just be allowed to go any speed he likes, to hell with the guy behind him, nobody should say anything.
A judge...or anyone with common sense would also consider who chose to get physical, note that he got physical in response to spoken words, which were said in a rather calm manner, all things considered. That certainly gives insight into the minds, and manner of both individuals.
And of course, as others realize, the road analogy is flawed to the point of being laughable. Road speeds are enforced by legal laws, and law-enforcement officials. Completely different from a self-policed environment, where courtesy and common-sense should dictate behavior. |
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Posted - 04/26/2012 : 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by AcesHigh
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Originally posted by booewen
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Originally posted by AcesHigh
No difference between a ferrari on my ass on a one way street, beeping his horn and yelling at me to let him by because he has a faster car. While I simply give him the finger and continue on my regular routine.
A world of difference. Obviously you don't trail run, mtn bike or even swim lanes in a swimming pool.
Common courtesy to let the faster person go by. Why ruin someone elses day by making them go your slow speed? Selfish.
Well like I said, I think there was a whole lot more to the story that we didn't see. It seemed by the tone of his voice and the way he was noticibly talking into the camera, putting on a show suddenly, he had already had discussions on the edited recording. He was probably an ignorant person at first, then decided he would be nice and put on a show for the camera. After being ignorant the cyclist in the front decided to just ignore him entirely which I wouldn't blame him.
Anyone riding right on my bumper deserves me to lock up my brakes.
This is a big difference between swimming and running. Ruin someones day? If someones day is going to be ruined because of someone going too slow, they have mental problems.
Actually you sound ignorant too, rule of the road, just about any road unless in a school-zone or neighborhood full of children & oldsters, is that the slower driver/rider must pull over safely for others and must not impede the traffic/trail. Especially so in the backcountry. Don't be a dick. |
Edited by - cambium on 04/26/2012 10:41 AM |
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Hope, BC
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Posted - 04/26/2012 : 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by cambium
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Originally posted by AcesHigh
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Originally posted by booewen
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Originally posted by AcesHigh
No difference between a ferrari on my ass on a one way street, beeping his horn and yelling at me to let him by because he has a faster car. While I simply give him the finger and continue on my regular routine.
A world of difference. Obviously you don't trail run, mtn bike or even swim lanes in a swimming pool.
Common courtesy to let the faster person go by. Why ruin someone elses day by making them go your slow speed? Selfish.
Well like I said, I think there was a whole lot more to the story that we didn't see. It seemed by the tone of his voice and the way he was noticibly talking into the camera, putting on a show suddenly, he had already had discussions on the edited recording. He was probably an ignorant person at first, then decided he would be nice and put on a show for the camera. After being ignorant the cyclist in the front decided to just ignore him entirely which I wouldn't blame him.
Anyone riding right on my bumper deserves me to lock up my brakes.
This is a big difference between swimming and running. Ruin someones day? If someones day is going to be ruined because of someone going too slow, they have mental problems.
Actually you sound ignorant too, rule of the road, just about any road unless in a school-zone or neighborhood full of children & oldsters, is that the slower driver/rider must pull over safely for others and must not impede the traffic/trail. Especially so in the backcountry. Don't be a dick.
What do you know about driving? It's illegal to drive too slow, yes there are speed limits but you also can't drive too slow. Secondly what do you know about biking? Have you ever gotten on one? There are no laws in the mountains pertaining to speeds, there is a thing called common courtesy. If you even watched the video and paid attention you'd see its been edited and doesn't really make any sense as they switched places after halfway through. Your advice isn't usefull as usual. |
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