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Burnaby, BC
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Kitsilano, BC
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Posted - 12/02/2011 : 4:28 PM
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| very cool, this is something that really bothers me when winter camping. |
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Mountain Grammar Police
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 Sardonic sandbagging scoundrel, Cascade Climbers lobotomized spraymeister, space blanket flyer, new millennium vulgarian betaboy and friend to all squids
Climbing, a mountain
Canada
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Posted - 12/02/2011 : 5:46 PM
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| messner used to walk around his home town carrying snowballs in his bare hands - this is nothing new |
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Langley, BC
Canada
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Posted - 12/02/2011 : 5:47 PM
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| Wonder if it works for "shrinkage." |
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Kitsilano, BC
Canada
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Posted - 12/02/2011 : 6:50 PM
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Originally posted by Matt
Wonder if it works for "shrinkage."
only one way to find out... |
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Vancouver, BC
Canada
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Posted - 12/02/2011 : 7:17 PM
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Originally posted by Dru
messner used to walk around his home town carrying snowballs in his bare hands - this is nothing new
Doesn't this study say that Messner didn't know what he was doing? |
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Burnaby, BC
Canada
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Posted - 12/02/2011 : 7:36 PM
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| Don Whillans was climbing Ben Nevis routes in wool socks in winter, to practice for Himalayas. He knew what he was doing ... |
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| Dru
Mountain Grammar Police
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Sardonic sandbagging scoundrel, Cascade Climbers lobotomized spraymeister, space blanket flyer, new millennium vulgarian betaboy and friend to all squids
Climbing, a mountain
Canada
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Posted - 12/02/2011 : 8:17 PM
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Originally posted by swebster
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Originally posted by Dru
messner used to walk around his home town carrying snowballs in his bare hands - this is nothing new
Doesn't this study say that Messner didn't know what he was doing?
They'd have to do a study with 0C snow for that. 8C water, as used in the study, is a relative hotspring by comparison. |
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Posted - 12/02/2011 : 8:34 PM
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Originally posted by swebster
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Originally posted by Dru
messner used to walk around his home town carrying snowballs in his bare hands - this is nothing new
Doesn't this study say that Messner didn't know what he was doing?
Too limited to make overall conclusions for sure, but yes, technically, based on this study alone, you'd be better off with NO cold exposure prior...
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Posted - 12/03/2011 : 07:07 AM
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I suppose one could gradually train oneself to ignore the pain and discomfort of the slow freezing of extremities on a cold winter day, and that in itself wouldn't be all that difficult to do over time, but that doesn't do much for preventing the damage of frostbite. Rather, I think one should be more concerned about preventing frostbite as once the tissue is damaged, it may be permanent.
What a person can do is train and condition limbs so there is a well-developed capillary bed and excellent circulation to those limbs. I am always amazed how I can go for a run wearing a thin pair of socks and light runners when it is -20 C and not have to worry about getting cold feet. In my opinion its all about circulation and not pain tolerance. |
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Langley, BC
Canada
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Posted - 12/03/2011 : 12:30 PM
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| It appears to me that the decrease in pain correlates with an increase in skin temperature? This might reduce frostbite risk? It would increase hypothermia risk though. |
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Training your fingers and toes to withstand cold
