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Not too far from Edmonton, Alberta
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Posted - 08/19/2011 : 10:46 AM
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With all due respect for your self-proclaimed status as 'a newbie', I appreciate the amount of time you've spent in online research, but there is no substitute for experience. I'd like to suggest you get out there a lot more, and tackle a few dozen hikes with people who have spent some time in outdoor activities, before risking your life alone in unknown territory.
Are you sure you'll be able to tell, in a single brief second, whether an encounter with a bear is dangerous or not, and if the latter, whether it is approaching you in a predatory or defensive manner? Do you know what a bluff charge is? Do you know you won't turn and run if you unexpectedly meet a bear on a trail? That's almost a guarantee you'll get chased, but you can't know you won't run until you bump into one unexpectedly.
This is the LAST time I am going to say this to you: yes, I do have trips planned with more experienced people in order to get some hands-on experience before going out on my own. As a matter of fact, once I've finished up everything at work this a.m., I am heading out to meet a fellow CTer for a trip this very weekend. Now friggin' drop it.
As for your second paragraph: give me a break. NO ONE knows for sure how they will react in an encounter until they have been in one, so you can quit pointing the finger at me. However, I would like to think that since I have actually taken the time to read up extensively on this stuff, I'd be better prepared to handle an encounter than, say, some uninformed newbie who trots mindessly along with a group of people hoping that someone else will let them know what to do in the event of an encounter. Just sayin'.
Now if you'll excuse me, I've gotta get my work done so that I can go play in the mountains. |
Edited by - Hiking Solo on 08/19/2011 10:52 AM |
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 Alberta-based choss climbin', flame throwin', rappel lovin', ass talkin' hater who doesn't like "Gumby" for a descriptor
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Posted - 08/19/2011 : 11:16 AM
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I appreciate the amount of time you've spent in online research, but there is no substitute for experience
That's b.s. To gain experience with bear run in's you need to be running into them on the trails on a regular basis, and even then they have their own mind and each situation is different and they respond differently given the circumstances. So, who do you know that runs across them on the trails very regularly other than some ocassional book writers that study them? Other than that it's all "guidelines" on what to do. |
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Posted - 08/19/2011 : 12:17 PM
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I suspect there are very few people, if any, on Club Tread that have been attacked by a bear. Most people that have been mauled have given up looking for wilderness experiences (because of the nightmares) unless they are some hard core trapper type (and those guys wouldn't be on this forum anyway).
I also assume that most of the posters on Club Tread have had numerous encounters with bears over the years. So if these assumptions are true, I think hiking in bear country is a pretty safe activity if people educate themselves the best they can about bears.
I have met many people that are very afraid of hiking because of the perceived threat of beat attack and that is unfortunate.
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Burnaby, BC
Canada
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Posted - 08/19/2011 : 12:29 PM
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Originally posted by Hiking Solo
^^^^ Holy smokes! There have been 167 bears killed by COs this year in BC? Yikes. That's a lot of dead bears (and that doesn't even include the ones that have been killed in traffic collisions, etc.).
Over 600 last year in BC. Record year is over 1500. No references handy.
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Posted - 08/19/2011 : 12:30 PM
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On one of my trips I met a guy who was astounded I didn't carry a gun to defend myself. This guy wasn't a hiker.
I have read some of Chis Townsend's books about hiking and he hardly mentions bears in his books. From his page on bears he writes, " In 8000 miles of hiking in black bear country, I've encountered only 10 bears, while in over 3000 miles of walking in grizzly bear country I've seen only 3 grizzlies, and 2 of those were far away." (The Advanced Backpacker, 2001) He does much of his hiking solo and has hiked most of the long distance trails in North America. |
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Washington, DC
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Posted - 04/19/2012 : 11:33 AM
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| Excuse the random bump, but I just wanted to point out that while I understand questioning Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_bear_attacks_in_North_America_by_decade has been researched extensively and every entry has a citation from an reliable source (ex. not a blog). If you have additional entries (with sources preferably) please reply to this thread or PM me. Thanks! |
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Posted - 04/19/2012 : 4:49 PM
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| They should grind the poor dead bear up and secretly infuse the meat into all the tofurkey dogs so all you hippy's over yonder can have a little taste of nature. |
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Victoria, BC
Canada
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Posted - 04/19/2012 : 5:02 PM
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LOmfL
awesome
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Popkum, BC
Canada
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Posted - 04/19/2012 : 5:11 PM
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Originally posted by wildtrekker
They should grind the poor dead bear up and secretly infuse the meat into all the tofurkey dogs so all you hippy's over yonder can have a little taste of nature.
Wat's wrong wit you dude - dudette? |
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pitt meadows, bc
Canada
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Posted - 08/05/2012 : 08:55 AM
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| if u r in the forest unarmed u can be mauled or eaten at any time by any kind or size of bear,my luck or your luck may run out at anytime, u will not be playing dead when animal starts chewing u in special places,realize the danger u r in when hiking and use every trick in the book to stay alive. head on a swivel,noise,escape routes,clean camp etc. and hope for the best, everything else is drama, |
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Kamloops, B.C.
Canada
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Posted - 08/05/2012 : 09:39 AM
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self explanatory
/artofmanliness.com/man-knowledge/12178/ |
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B.C. man survives , bear dead, cubs in tree
