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Edmonton, Alberta
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Posted - 05/03/2012 : 5:59 PM
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Originally posted by wildtrekker
So go chirp on another message board. 
No, make me pinhead.
This is post #153 from you of complete nothing because you're too stupid to think of anything to say.
Go "Pack your heat", redneck. lol. |
Edited by - Release on 05/03/2012 6:01 PM |
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Brentwood Bay, BC
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Posted - 05/03/2012 : 6:11 PM
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Originally posted by Release
Okay, it's grizzlies. So what? ...
The point that I was making is that if you want a scientific debate get your facts straight.
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Originally posted by Release
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You might also want to consider that there are those hunting Grizzly Bears for food; people do eat Grizzly meat.
You might wanna consider that I did consider this and that's why I continually speak only of trophy hunters (and the link I provided speaks only of trophy hunters) and don't address the others, but I doubt reading comprehension is your strong point.
At the end of the day your post is only one more in a steam of posts that can't address the point at hand. 1 in 5 grizzlies killed in BC are killed because some dickless nob just wanted to see if he could kill a bear.
What the link you provided left out was that ALL Grizzly Bears killed by hunters in BC must be reported and that the figures given in that report actually represent all Grizzly Bears harvested by hunters.
Can you please provide a source to your claim above for the 1 in 5 Grizzly Bears killed are the result of a hunter. I'm sorry if I missed it in that report, but I just did not see it.
Oh and my reading comprehension is a strong point of mine. |
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Brentwood Bay, BC
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Edmonton, Alberta
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Posted - 05/03/2012 : 6:17 PM
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My mistake it's not 1 in 5, it's 4 out of 5. I was typing too fast. Sure here's the link (again, since you can't seem to look back 1 page)
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British Columbia's grizzly bears are among the most vulnerable large animals on the continent. The factors that threaten them are largely human-caused and include climate change, loss of habitat from industrial and recreational development, and unsustainable rates of mortality from trophy hunting, animal control kills and poaching. According to the David Suzuki Foundation's analysis of the government's Compulsory Inspection Database, an average of 339 grizzlies are killed each year in the province, the vast majority of which (87 per cent) is from trophy hunting in the spring and fall.
Last year, 317 bears died at the hands of humans in B.C. Most of this mortality (78 per cent) was a result of the legal trophy hunt, and about 15 per cent were the result of "control" kills of so-called problem bears. However, this may not the be whole story — research conducted by government biologists in B.C. indicates that people kill 50 to 100 per cent more bears than are reported, which suggests the mortality for 2010 could be as high as 634, or approximately four per cent of the total population.
http://www.davidsuzuki.org/blogs/panther-lounge/2011/03/how-safe-are-bcs-grizzlies/
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Oh and can you please provide more sources that back up the claims made in the report above.
Gotta love it: he asks for a link then doesn't read it.
Why? Because you refuse to read the evidence when it's presented and missed the fact that this is based on the governments own data? There is no better proof than that. Read the part again where it says the information comes from the government's Compulsory Inspection Database
There is no better proof than that. It's REALITY buddy. The facts. All the facts. Not David Suzuki, the governments own data. There is no other collection of data with more viability than that. Naturally you will just stamp your feet and decide that the government's Compulsory Inspection Database is "nothing" and proves "nothing" but then any child can reply to the facts with "nah-uh! Is not!". Where's your compiled data of every reported grizzly killing?
That you decide to ignore the facts doesn't surprise me.
You're not interested in proof obviously. You're just plying brain dead childish games to avoid the truth. |
Edited by - Release on 05/03/2012 6:21 PM |
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Brentwood Bay, BC
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Posted - 05/03/2012 : 6:18 PM
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Oh and one more thing Release can you post your replies after you have made up your mind what you want to say. You are continually posting then editing your words.
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Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
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Posted - 05/03/2012 : 6:22 PM
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^^ Yet another post that can't answer the point. So what if I'm editing? You asked for the link, the proof. There it is. Now that you have it the best you can do is to babble about me editing my posts.
lol. You guys are a complete joke. |
Edited by - Release on 05/03/2012 6:23 PM |
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Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
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Posted - 05/03/2012 : 6:25 PM
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Oh and my reading comprehension is a strong point of mine.
Unless it comes down to properly reading the links you demand for proof. LOL!!! |
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Brentwood Bay, BC
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Posted - 05/03/2012 : 6:26 PM
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Originally posted by Release
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Oh and can you please provide more sources that back up the claims made in the report above.
Why? Because you refuse to read the evidence when it's presented and missed the fact that this is based on the governments own data? There is no better proof than that. Read the part again where it says the iformation comes from the government's Compulsory Inspection Databas
There is no better proof than that. That you decide to ignore it doesn't surprise me.
You're not interested in proof obviously. You're just plying brain dead childish games to avoid the truth.
I'm sorry are you not trying to advocate that all bear hunting should be stopped?
Because, if you are the data from inspection database does not necessarily say that.
I'm not ignoring anything. I'm asking you to provide scientific studies that say that the hunt should be stopped. |
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Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
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Posted - 05/03/2012 : 6:28 PM
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Hilarious!!
Joker says: quote:
What the link you provided left out was that ALL Grizzly Bears killed by hunters in BC must be reported and that the figures given in that report actually represent all Grizzly Bears harvested by hunters.
When in fact the link he's talking about IS DIRECTLY REFERRING TO the reporting of killed bears by hunters that he's talking about. The information is FROM THAT DATABASE!
LOLOLOLOL!!!...oh man...and then he says:
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Oh and my reading comprehension is a strong point of mine.
Obviously it isn't. |
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Brentwood Bay, BC
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Posted - 05/03/2012 : 6:29 PM
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Originally posted by Release
^^ Yet another post that can't answer the point. So what if I'm editing? You asked for the link, the proof. There it is. Now that you have it the best you can do is to babble about me editing my posts.
lol. You guys are a complete joke.
I was referring to a previous post you made that I quoted.
When you continually post and edit after the fact it is vary hard to have a debate. |
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Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
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Posted - 05/03/2012 : 6:31 PM
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I'm sorry are you not trying to advocate that all bear hunting should be stopped?
I thought reading comprehension was your strong point? I told you 3 times now that it's trophy hunting I would like to see stopped.
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Because, if you are the data from inspection database does not necessarily say that.
Yeah it does. Read it. And don't come back here with "it doesn't necessarily say that" when you don't have any better proof other than whatever notion you pull straight out of your ass to try and win an argument. The database takes into account hunting for food over trophy hunting which is a licensed commercial affair.
I have the data. You have shit. |
Edited by - Release on 05/03/2012 6:32 PM |
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Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
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Posted - 05/03/2012 : 6:33 PM
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Originally posted by joker
When you continually post and edit after the fact it is vary hard to have a debate.
That's okay because you're not "debating", you're just playing games. |
Edited by - Release on 05/03/2012 6:33 PM |
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Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
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Posted - 05/03/2012 : 6:34 PM
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Let's read it again together joker:
Last year, 317 bears died at the hands of humans in B.C. Most of this mortality (78 per cent) was a result of the legal trophy hunt, and about 15 per cent were the result of "control" kills of so-called problem bears. However, this may not the be whole story — research conducted by government biologists in B.C. indicates that people kill 50 to 100 per cent more bears than are reported, which suggests the mortality for 2010 could be as high as 634, or approximately four per cent of the total population.
Can you read it yet or do you need someone to help you? |
Edited by - Release on 05/03/2012 6:35 PM |
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Brentwood Bay, BC
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Posted - 05/03/2012 : 6:35 PM
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Originally posted by Release
Hilarious!!
Joker says: quote:
What the link you provided left out was that ALL Grizzly Bears killed by hunters in BC must be reported and that the figures given in that report actually represent all Grizzly Bears harvested by hunters.
When in fact the link he's talking about IS DIRECTLY REFERRING TO the reporting of killed bears by hunters that he's talking about. The information is FROM THAT DATABASE!
LOLOLOLOL!!!...oh man...and then he says:
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Oh and my reading comprehension is a strong point of mine.
Obviously it isn't.
You had made a reference that you (and that report) only talked about Grizzly Bears killed by trophy hunters. I'm telling you that those numbers represent all bears harvested in BC by hunters and that the report is incorrect in their term of trophy hunter.
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Edmonton, Alberta
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Posted - 05/03/2012 : 6:37 PM
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| Take your time joker. I'm going to go walk the dog I'm sure that'll give you enough time to come up with bullshit rationales about how it doesn't really say what it plainly says and it's not based on any real information (like a government database that collects exactly the relevant data in question for example) |
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Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
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Posted - 05/03/2012 : 6:39 PM
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Originally posted by joker
You had made a reference that you (and that report) only talked about Grizzly Bears killed by trophy hunters. I'm telling you that those numbers represent all bears harvested in BC by hunters and that the report is incorrect in their term of trophy hunter.
Oh for fuck sakes. Your reading comprehension is for shit buddy. One more time:
Last year, 317 bears died at the hands of humans in B.C. Most of this mortality (78 per cent) was a result of the legal trophy hunt, and about 15 per cent were the result of "control" kills of so-called problem bears. However, this may not the be whole story — research conducted by government biologists in B.C. indicates that people kill 50 to 100 per cent more bears than are reported, which suggests the mortality for 2010 could be as high as 634, or approximately four per cent of the total population.
TROPHY HUNTING! How many times does it need to say that before you and your excellent reading comprehension finally picks it up?!
You are a joke. You're going to tell me that the governments own complied data is incorrect...because you just decide so. Because you say so. Hilarious. Like I say, any child can answer back, "Nay-uh! Is not!" when faced with a truth he just can't accept.
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Penhold, Alberta
Canada
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Posted - 05/03/2012 : 6:44 PM
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Originally posted by Release
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Originally posted by wildtrekker
I've tried out my bear banger's before. They're not guarenteed to work, and also explode 20-30 metres away, while a shotgun loaded with 000 buck shot, in front of a bears face would surely make a bigger bang.
Nothing is guaranteed to work and no, plenty of people have shot bears and gotten mauled as a result so neither it that. One can only hope it happens to you one day.
Are you for real? How could you even remotely think that making a statement like this can be acceptable?
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Brentwood Bay, BC
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Posted - 05/03/2012 : 6:55 PM
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Originally posted by Release
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Originally posted by joker
You had made a reference that you (and that report) only talked about Grizzly Bears killed by trophy hunters. I'm telling you that those numbers represent all bears harvested in BC by hunters and that the report is incorrect in their term of trophy hunter.
Oh for fuck sakes. Your reading comprehension is for shit buddy. One more time:
Last year, 317 bears died at the hands of humans in B.C. Most of this mortality (78 per cent) was a result of the legal trophy hunt, and about 15 per cent were the result of "control" kills of so-called problem bears. However, this may not the be whole story — research conducted by government biologists in B.C. indicates that people kill 50 to 100 per cent more bears than are reported, which suggests the mortality for 2010 could be as high as 634, or approximately four per cent of the total population.
TROPHY HUNTING! How many times does it need to say that before you and your excellent reading comprehension finally picks it up?!
You are a joke. You're going to tell me that the governments own complied data is incorrect...because you just decide so. Because you say so. Hilarious. Like I say, any child can answer back, "Nay-uh! Is not!" when faced with a truth he just can't accept.
And one last time.
The report's terminology is incorrect.
All Grizzly Bears are reported (see below - copy and pasted from the regulations).
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The following species of game must be submitted
to a regional compulsory inspection centre:
• mountain goat • mountain sheep
• grizzly bear • cougar • caribou
• elk in Regions 2 and 8
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There is no designation between those harvested for food or trophy.
Why do you think that the Suzuki Foundation would only want to use the term trophy hunting?
Furthermore, can you please clearly state what point you are making? Is to stop all hunting or just that you don't care for it or what?
I have asked you before and maybe you have gone back and re-edited your posts and I'm not going to go back to re-read your posts to see if somewhere there you have answered my question.
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Finally stopping that crazy suffering that is ice, climbing to concentrate on great ski tours!
3502 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2012 : 6:58 PM
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canine loving, machete-toting bushwhacking lake seeker, Indiana Jones hat-wearing off-road 4x4 guru
Surrey Hole, BC
Canada
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Posted - 05/03/2012 : 7:05 PM
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Originally posted by johngenx
Can someone remind me of why T2C was banned?
I think it was because he made better videos than I did 
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Packing Heat on the Trail
