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Victoria, BC
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 3:38 PM
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 canine loving, machete-toting bushwhacking lake seeker, Indiana Jones hat-wearing off-road 4x4 guru
Surrey Hole, BC
Canada
6788 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2012 : 3:54 PM
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Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
253 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2012 : 3:57 PM
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Originally posted by HagensborgViking
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Originally posted by Release
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Originally posted by cambium
I forget all about this bigot & think that he must be on crack-cocaine
You really need to read more. I called people rednecks. That's name-calling. Others, like yourself, have made derogatory assumptions based on my location. That's bigotry. Look it up.
"Bigotry is the state of mind of a "bigot", a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one who exhibits intolerance or animosity toward members of a group."
Oh man, that made my day.
Yes and the very next sentence you decided to omit:
Bigotry may be based on real or perceived characteristics, including sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, race, ethnicity, nationality, region, language, religious or spiritual belief, political alignment, age, economic status or disability.
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Originally posted by The Hiker
What do you expect ? He's from Edmonton! 
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Originally posted by HagensborgViking
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Originally posted by Release
Personal pet peeve of bear history....
1. The bear, actually a gentle pitiful animial is sitting minding it's own business chewing down on some roots.
2. The "hunter", (and I use the word jokingly because there have been no human hunters in North America or anywhere else since the advent of the rifle, [yes. I have hunted. just an opinion]), sneaks up on the bear and assassinates it by shooting it from behind. Bear never had a chance, never saw it coming.
3. The "hunter" takes it home, get's it stuffed and of course poses it standing up, baring it's teeth and looking quite menacing.
4. The "hunter" makes up some story about how the bear was just about on top of him in mid-charge when he shot it.
If every stuffed bear anyone ever saw was stuffed into the "gentle-poohbear-eating-roots" position instead of the "vicious animal" position would we have the same, "land shark" view of bears today?
How very urban of you.
If you ever encounter an aggressive bear, just tap it on the snout with a stick and tell him how disappointed you are.
Did that make your day too pinhead? Considering time and time again I've stated that I don't dislike all hunters that puts me off the list and keeps you on it.
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Edmonton, Alberta
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 4:04 PM
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...and from the dictionary definition rather than the wiki:
: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot |
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Victoria, BC
Canada
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 4:06 PM
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Originally posted by Release
Did that make your day too pinhead?
yes.
Unlike you, I'm having a great time with this. And you didn't do yourself any favors by adding in what I had left out for the sole purpopse of being brief, the definition still applies to you.
edit(surprised there was one left for me to use)
Bigotry is often used against a racial or ethnic group, but is not limited to such. Perhaps you're thinking of a "racist"?
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Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 4:12 PM
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Unlike you, I'm having a great time with this.
Another fantasy of yours designed to feed your insecure ego.
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the definition still applies to you.
No it doesn't.
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Bigotry is often used against a racial or ethnic group, but is not limited to such. Perhaps you're thinking of a "racist"?
Nothing I said denies this, in fact I specified "region" not race so one has to wonder what you're babbling about this time since it has nothing to do with anything I said (again). Try learning to read pinhead. I posted the dictionary definition. If you have a problem with it write them and rant.
Here, this is what I said. Let me take you by the hand and we can sound out the words together slowly:
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You really need to read more. I called people rednecks. That's name-calling. Others, like yourself, have made derogatory assumptions based on my location. That's bigotry. Look it up.
Once again you can't respond to what I said but instead must respond to what you wish I said. I never mentioned race once, the dictionary did. Maybe you wouldn't be such a moron if you learned to read for once. |
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Victoria, BC
Canada
425 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2012 : 4:23 PM
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Well I'm off work in forty minutes and I haven't done a single thing all day. To all who participated, good job, thank you, and a very special internet high five to Release... You've made this thread one of the best yet.
Gotta run, have a great weekend everyone.
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 4:35 PM
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Hahaha. Wow. You guys need to get out and go hiking or something...
Now I know what people do all day when they don't work.... |
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 4:36 PM
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Originally posted by cambium
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Originally posted by DCIPHER
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Originally posted by cambium
Background (Preamble):
Hunters and outdoors men & women have long been the true conservationists in Canada, North America, and the world. The money spent by Hunters and Outdoors men/women and the true care for how wildlife is managed properly is surpassed by no group.
Good gravy....when hunters pull out this asinine BS...it makes the head spin. Don't get me wrong, I actually support carefully controlled hunting...I just don't like the complete BS hunters often use for reasoning.
Yes...let us all thank the hunters for their desperately needed population control...one shudders to think of what it was like before modern hunting, where nature had to manage itself. Armies of bears running amuck, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together...
Fish & Game clubs and Habitat Surcharges and Ducks unlimited & nature trusts in liasons have bought and or contributed and or volunteered more wetlands and habitats towards conservation & protection than most wilderness committees , etc, combined. While many Clubs & BCWF fund raise and purchase and garner strong MLA government support & liason with others & fight strongly for backcountry access rights, while other groups merely talk and get news-PR and sometimes pick up the logged over remnants of places.
No come on Cambium. It's me....you know better....as if I would be confused by such an argument. I was talking about the behavior of hunting as a necessary environmental act...it isn't (with a few possible exceptions...mostly due to other man-created sitations).
You're referring to OTHER unrelated activities which some hunting groups engage in. They could do these acts with or without hunting, and is in no way an argument for them being "the true environmentalists" any more than tobacco companies who make sizeable donations to cancer research can be called the "true cancer activists".
I do not wish to be painted as an extremist, which some, who don't read my posts thoroughly will start to assume, due to the necessary response to such extreme pro-hunting arguments, so again: I support the right to some hunting. I simply believe in honesty and openness and I call hunting for what it truly is: sport killing. That's the truth for the vast majority of hunters, and it's part of human nature, so own it! |
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Kamloops, BC
Canada
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 6:28 PM
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I plant my garden every spring, buy my grass fed beef and chicken from local sources and I feel no need to kill any wild animal for food or trophy. Rednecks should be phased out.
The other day I was on a hike OFF THE BEATEN PATH and I came across a bear. I knew it was there before I had even seen it because I notice huge ass prints on the ground in the soggy mud. Good sized brown bear and was about 100 feet away. Upon seeing me come into view the cute looking thing ran off out of view and I continued my hike. Any scared piece of shit red neck carrying a gun for one of these creatures is a pussy as f*ck.
You losers are spouting off that you have families and you need to protect them? My father and brother and I have spent more time in nature then most of you dumb cunts. 3 week canoe trips, over night hikes and camping, placer mining with a camp for several weeks at a time etc etc etc etc and we came across every bit of wildlife one could possibly see. Never once needed guns. My fathers been face to face with cougars and bears countless times and he is still alive.
I go away for a couple days and these rednecks are claiming their right to have firearms? Go live in America f*ckin goofs. Screw club tread rednecks. If I had of known this place was full of losers like you I'd never have joined. |
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canine loving, machete-toting bushwhacking lake seeker, Indiana Jones hat-wearing off-road 4x4 guru
Surrey Hole, BC
Canada
6788 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2012 : 7:24 PM
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Brentwood Bay, BC
216 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2012 : 7:32 PM
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Originally posted by Release
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Now can you please post scientific studies that show that Grizzly Bears or Black Bears are an endangered species in BC?
Why does it matter if it's only BC? I'm going to ignore the fact that you wouldn't know a scientific study if it slapped you in the face and I'll also ignore the fact that no matter what I present you're going to scoff just like you did with the last ( or any) data presented regarding bear spray or hunting or anything else...
Their numbers plummeted because of being hunted into that state just like the wolf and buffalo before them. Naturally you are incapable of recognizing the pattern here but that's what ignorant people do: ignore the obvious...
In other words while the numbers are still just high enough to keep them off the list in BC, the hunting of them is the very activity that caused them to be put on the list or wiped out entirely everywhere else in North America...
By the way most studies regarding the extinction of species like this don't draw borders between BC and the rest of the continent...
Why it maters is that you are trying to use an article published on the Suzuki Foundation website about Grizzly Bears in BC to say that Grizzly Bears are being harvested to extinction. So I was asking for other data that BC Grizzly Bears were in potential danger. Although, you are right extinction does not know political boundaries, I would have accepted any documentation from anywhere that current harvesting practices are resulting in Grizzly Bears being on the brink of extinction. Subsequently, I would have also excepted an article about them being extirpated from any area due to modern harvesting practices.
I was asking you to provide independent academic studies and not one from a NFP organization that might appear to have a bias to one end of the spectrum or the other. I would also would not have accepted a report from the BC Wildlife Federation.
I also asked if you had the raw (or primary) data from the BC Government. You continually cite back to the Suzuki article that uses the data. That is not the same thing. I'm sure the raw data included way more information than what the article stated.
Your reference has always been back to that article. And the article does not actually say to stop all harvesting. It's main point is the establishment of Grizzly Bear management areas (GBMAs) that would act essentially like a park for Grizzly Bears. What the article does not mention is that the BC Government is doing that. Their term is Grizzly Bear No Hunting areas(GBNHAs) and there are 3 of these GBNHAs. They are reviewing 5 other Ecoprovinces.
Other irregularities in that article are that they use a study by McLellan, B., Hovey, F. and Woods, J. Rates and Causes of Grizzly Bear Mortality in the Interior Mountains of Western North America. and this study basically states that mortality rates can be up to twice as much as what is recorded in the BC database; I'm not disputing that. The Suzuki article states this but say that even when you add this the mortality rate is still bellow what is accepted as sustainable. The Ministry of Environment does use this mortality rate (4%-6%) and includes all factors when determining harvest numbers for the 135 separate zones where harvesting is allowed.
These are just a few of the reasons why I have been asking you to provide other data.
I'm not going to get into other aspects now, such as how you have slightly changed what exactly you are trying to debate or the point you are trying to make.
I'm sure you will come back and swear, try to insult me, comment on what you think the size (or complete lack there of) of some of my specific body parts, etc. And that's fine, but it does not contribute to the point that you are trying to make.
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Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 9:20 PM
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zzzzzZZZZZZzzzzzz
I was done with this hours ago. Just stfu and go out and kill the first animal you see. Badgers, elk, dolphin, squirrel, whatever, just go bag one. I'm sure it'll make you feel better.
But if some crackhead in Vancouver blows your head off you can expect me to say,
"Nice shot buddy! What? Oh don't worry about it. Theres already 6 billion of those ugly things on the planet. Who gives a shit if a couple more are knocked off?"
I mean crack boy needs money right? And just because everyone else gets their money from a job you can't fault this guy for getting it the good old fashioned manly way right?
lol.
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Ladysmith, B.C.
Canada
125 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2012 : 9:27 PM
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Originally posted by Saltfactory
Good sized brown bear and was about 100 feet away. Upon seeing me come into view the cute looking thing ran off out of view and I continued my hike. Any scared piece of shit red neck carrying a gun for one of these creatures is a pussy as f*ck.
You losers are spouting off that you have families and you need to protect them? My father and brother and I have spent more time in nature then most of you dumb cunts. 3 week canoe trips, over night hikes and camping, placer mining with a camp for several weeks at a time etc etc etc etc and we came across every bit of wildlife one could possibly see. Never once needed guns. My fathers been face to face with cougars and bears countless times and he is still alive.
I go away for a couple days and these rednecks are claiming their right to have firearms? Go live in America f*ckin goofs. Screw club tread rednecks. If I had of known this place was full of losers like you I'd never have joined.
Saltfactory ..... there are be medical options that you may want to take advantage of .... good luck with your treatments ...... get well soon! |
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Brentwood Bay, BC
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 9:34 PM
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Originally posted by Release
zzzzzZZZZZZzzzzzz
I was done with this hours ago. Just stfu and go out and kill the first animal you see. Badgers, elk, dolphin, squirrel, whatever, just go bag one. I'm sure it'll make you feel better.
But if some crackhead in Vancouver blows your head off you can expect me to say,
"Nice shot buddy! What? Oh don't worry about it. Theres already 6 billion of those ugly things on the planet. Who gives a shit if a couple more are knocked off?"
I mean crack boy needs money right? And just because everyone else gets their money from a job you can't fault this guy for getting it the good old fashioned manly way right?
lol.
Are yah done now?
Are you sure? Your first post (that I saw at 9:04) was better...
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Originally posted by Release
(yawn)
Just go kill an animal and shut up. I don't care. I'm done.
I think your current one (as of 9:20) was about the 7th I saw. And yes I did hit refresh a few times after I saw what appeared to be your first reply but you do like edit so I was giving you a few... apparently you like to delete and repost as well. It was rather entertaining for a few minutes and no I wasn't hitting refresh all night just stumbled on your 9:04 post.
And bravo for almost sort of not swearing. |
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Brentwood Bay, BC
216 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2012 : 9:36 PM
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Oh and I don't live in Vancouver or close to it really. Or even visit there often.
There is an ocean in the way. |
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Edmonton, AB
Canada
746 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2012 : 9:39 PM
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| JEEE-RRY!! JEEE-RRY!! JEEE-RRY!! |
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Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
253 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2012 : 9:41 PM
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@Joker,
Dude, why are you so angry? Sand in your vagina again?
I'm just saying you know? You're right, and I'm so very very wrong. I surrender on account I cannot hope to compete with such an overwhelmingly superior intellect such as yours. Why does that get you so angry?
I take it all back. There's tons of bears, always have been and always will be, so just go on out there and shoot them to your little hearts content. |
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 9:46 PM
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Can't believe the crack head is still at it after these several hours x two or three days.
His off-the topic hijack and swearing & hijacking wildtrekkers other TR with saltie-nuts help and attempts to belitle nor accept reasonable statements from others is the definition of a junkies-crackhead's behaviour.
I seriously doubt that some-one on Pot or Heroin would be so vile & hostile, and some-one on booze would have passed out.
That leaves crack, maybe meth?
You owe us an apology, but I ain't waiting.
This is our established legal cultural heritage life & rights.
Dry up & blow away.
You remind me a bit of someone else here, could be that Jim should check your IP adress and see if you are in violation of the guidelines. |
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Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 9:46 PM
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Originally posted by cambium
Can't believe the crack head is still at it after these several hours x two or three days.
why not? You are. |
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Packing Heat on the Trail
