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Not too far from Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by Release
Hilarious: obviously HagensborgViking has been waiting around all morning furiously hitting the refresh button waiting for a response. lol.
I don't know about HV, but I've certainly been hitting the "refresh" button all morning....
I almost hate to admit that. |
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Ladysmith, B.C.
Canada
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 10:48 AM
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| Release .... thank you for your thoughts, much appreciated. |
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Victoria, BC
Canada
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by Hiking Solo
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Originally posted by Release
Hilarious: obviously HagensborgViking has been waiting around all morning furiously hitting the refresh button waiting for a response. lol.
I don't know about HV, but I've certainly been hitting the "refresh" button all morning....
I almost hate to admit that.
Oh this is my favourite thread of all time, for sure. "Dogs in the Backcountry" was fantastic, as was the bears on the roof one that had Release flailing about in exactly the same way, but no... this one rules.
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Originally posted by peddlebike
Release .... thank you for your thoughts, much appreciated.
Not just by you, that post was well composed and covered his points perfectly. If he had done that in the first place this thread would be completely different. Oh and Release, I think you'd be hard pressed to find any members here that don't condemn the trophy hunting of any animal, I for one find it barbaric. I cannot claim the same stance on hunting for food however. Our views on a secure and neverending food supply also differ.
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Edmonton, Alberta
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 11:31 AM
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Originally posted by HagensborgViking
Oh and Release, I think you'd be hard pressed to find any members here that don't condemn the trophy hunting of any animal, I for one find it barbaric. I cannot claim the same stance on hunting for food however. Our views on a secure and neverending food supply also differ.
blah blah blah bears on the roof one that had Release flailing about in exactly the same way, but no...blah blah blah
Oh really. Yet that doesn't stop you from flaming does it? Should I bring forward our previous "battle" where I specifically address trophy hunting and you come at me like a terrier in heat babbling and attacking me for things I didn't say only to finally admit you knew I was actually talking about trophy hunting (not hunting in general) and you admitted you don't like it either? Remember? Remember me telling you that it takes a real troll to argue with someone they actually agree with? Remember that? It was you flailing around Viking, not me.Maybe you need to learn how to read. |
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Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 11:34 AM
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| Link us to that thread Viking so we can all see how full of shit you are. |
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 11:37 AM
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Originally posted by wildtrekker
Release... Are you okay?
You don't seem very happy.
Are you sad?
.. I know it's really hard living in Edmonton and all.
honestly, while I was sitting out-back watching nature & a peregrine falcon in the evening while i was nursing a very sprained leg and cleaning my .22 & catching the late rays of sunshine & watching some passing mtn bikers & nodding to them, I forget all about this bigot & think that he must be on crack-cocaine or something when I returned here this a.m.
As Aqua Terra & many have said, tolerance & respect, something that we either learn here or we don't.
Next time A.Q. & Co. stages another classic winter campout, they should put together a western theme shotgun event & post it, I think that would be cool.[ steelshot of-course to appease the sensitivies of some].
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Victoria, BC
Canada
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Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
252 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2012 : 11:49 AM
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Nevermind, here is the post that got you all hot and bothered Viking:
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Originally posted by Release...
Personal pet peeve of bear history....
1. The bear, actually a gentle pitiful animial is sitting minding it's own business chewing down on some roots.
2. The "hunter", (and I use the word jokingly because there have been no human hunters in North America or anywhere else since the advent of the rifle, [yes. I have hunted. just an opinion]), sneaks up on the bear and assassinates it by shooting it from behind. Bear never had a chance, never saw it coming.
3. The "hunter" takes it home, get's it stuffed and of course poses it standing up, baring it's teeth and looking quite menacing.
4. The "hunter" makes up some story about how the bear was just about on top of him in mid-charge when he shot it.
If every stuffed bear anyone ever saw was stuffed into the "gentle-poohbear-eating-roots" position instead of the "vicious animal" position would we have the same, "land shark" view of bears today?
Blatantly obvious I was talking about trophy hunting....
Your idiotic response?
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Originally posted by HagensborgViking
How very urban of you.
If you ever encounter an aggressive bear, just tap it on the snout with a stick and tell him how disappointed you are.
Bears have been eating us, and we have taken revenge, for hundreds of thousands of years. Am I calling for their extinction? No, absolutely not. Just don't try and tell me you can sit down with one and show it pictures of your sister's wedding.
Which so obviously has NOTHING to do with anything I said. Really not a response at all since it doesn't respond to anything I said or contended.
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Originally posted by HagensborgViking
Whoa, easy there sugar tits. No need to get so defensive. If you were raised by bears in Whitehorse, that's fine with me. Who's finger-bangin who out there in the backwoods is no business of mine. But why would you slander anyone who decides to sustain themselves and their family while keeping themselves outside of the retail loop, and at the same time declare that every bear ever killed was harmlessly munching roots, and assume that not a single person was going to say something in contradiction?
Again obvious for anyone who can read and understand English this isn't what I was referring to, contending or anything else. But you need to argue so naturally you need to argue what you wish I said rather than what I did say, which is why we see the hilarious mischaracterization of the post in question before you can even pretend you're answering it. Why not just argue with a puppet so you can fill in his responses as well. You might fair better.
Finally after many redneck "witticisms" by Viking including such knee-slappers as "sugartits", etc., Viking breaks down....
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"I fully realize that trophy hunting exists, and I condemn it..."
Yep. Takes a real troll to argue against something he secretly agrees with.
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 12:01 PM
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Originally posted by DCIPHER
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Originally posted by cambium
Background (Preamble):
Hunters and outdoors men & women have long been the true conservationists in Canada, North America, and the world. The money spent by Hunters and Outdoors men/women and the true care for how wildlife is managed properly is surpassed by no group.
Good gravy....when hunters pull out this asinine BS...it makes the head spin. Don't get me wrong, I actually support carefully controlled hunting...I just don't like the complete BS hunters often use for reasoning.
Yes...let us all thank the hunters for their desperately needed population control...one shudders to think of what it was like before modern hunting, where nature had to manage itself. Armies of bears running amuck, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together...
Fish & Game clubs and Habitat Surcharges and Ducks unlimited & nature trusts in liasons have bought and or contributed and or volunteered more wetlands and habitats towards conservation & protection than most wilderness committees , etc, combined. While many Clubs & BCWF fund raise and purchase and garner strong MLA government support & liason with others & fight strongly for backcountry access rights, while other groups merely talk and get news-PR and sometimes pick up the logged over remnants of places. |
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Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 12:01 PM
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Originally posted by HagensborgViking
I cannot claim the same stance on hunting for food however.
Really. You need to hunt bear for food? You can't hunt deer or rabbit or moose or something else whose numbers aren't borderline in BC and endangered everywhere else? Okay, whatever you say. |
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 12:12 PM
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Originally posted by Candy Sack
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Originally posted by peddlebike
Personaly, I carry a firearm in some situations. Short shotgun or heavy revolver. No hiking trails where I go, and I look after myself.
Is your "heavy revolver" a restricted weapon? My understanding is that there are strict laws about transport and use of these. Is it even legal to hike around with one, or shoot them anywhere but at a firing range? I thought not, but could be wrong.
1/Currently struck down by the Ontario Supreme court and the prosecution is planning an appeal.
2/ One may possess & carry a variant revolver-rifle[black powder or center fire] that is unrestricted
3/ many people have current and grandfathered ATCs [ authority to carry ] although the current RCMP controlled CFC is making that difficult for many to acquire.
4/ over 600 thousand handguns are legally possessed and used & transported in private hands in Canada. |
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Victoria, BC
Canada
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by Release
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Originally posted by HagensborgViking
I cannot claim the same stance on hunting for food however.
Really. You need to hunt bear for food? You can't hunt deer or rabbit or moose or something else whose numbers aren't borderline in BC and endangered everywhere else? Okay, whatever you say.
Out of context... again. I was referring to hunting in general, not bears. Not EVER bears actually, I've been offered bear meat and honestly would rather eat gonch. And just so you know, bears reported killed in the Bella Coola Valley represent aproximately 70-80% of bears actually killed, and their numbers are still through the roof. You see, places like that still consider them a pest. |
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 12:45 PM
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Sigh. I'm amazed this thread is still going. Probably, the 'packing heat' phrase.
It sounds to me like pretty much everything's been said (eight or ten times), and the rest of us are just sitting back munching popcorn. Why not say your piece and let it stand on its own, then go out hiking instead of sitting behind your computer whining?
Arguments like this are the reason I don't bother as much with CT anymore. |
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Langley
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 12:48 PM
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| To hell with the backcountry, this board is getting so hostile I think I should be packing heat while reading. |
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Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
252 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2012 : 12:57 PM
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Originally posted by HagensborgViking
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Originally posted by Release
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Originally posted by HagensborgViking
I cannot claim the same stance on hunting for food however.
Really. You need to hunt bear for food? You can't hunt deer or rabbit or moose or something else whose numbers aren't borderline in BC and endangered everywhere else? Okay, whatever you say.
Out of context... again. I was referring to hunting in general, not bears. Not EVER bears actually, I've been offered bear meat and honestly would rather eat gonch.
Well no it's completely within context since bear hunting and bear hunting only is what we're talking about. If you weren't talking about bear hunting then you are the one who is out of context. But never-the-less we obviously agree on that one point so whatever. Have a good day. |
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Victoria, BC
Canada
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 1:05 PM
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Originally posted by Release
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Originally posted by HagensborgViking
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Originally posted by Release
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Originally posted by HagensborgViking
I cannot claim the same stance on hunting for food however.
Really. You need to hunt bear for food? You can't hunt deer or rabbit or moose or something else whose numbers aren't borderline in BC and endangered everywhere else? Okay, whatever you say.
Out of context... again. I was referring to hunting in general, not bears. Not EVER bears actually, I've been offered bear meat and honestly would rather eat gonch.
Well no it's completely within context since bear hunting and bear hunting only is what we're talking about. If you weren't talking about bear hunting then you are the one who is out of context. But never-the-less we obviously agree on that one point so whatever. Have a good day.
We do. Same as a year ago.
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Originally posted by Release
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Originally posted by HagensborgViking
Oh and Release, I think you'd be hard pressed to find any members here that don't condemn the trophy hunting of any animal, I for one find it barbaric. I cannot claim the same stance on hunting for food however. Our views on a secure and neverending food supply also differ.
Oh really. Yet that doesn't stop you from flaming does it?
No.
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Kootenay Bud
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 2:41 PM
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Originally posted by peter1955
Arguments like this are the reason I don't bother as much with CT anymore.
Aww, come on, it's pissing with rain everywhere and this Viking dude is funny. |
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Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
252 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2012 : 3:10 PM
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Originally posted by cambium
I forget all about this bigot & think that he must be on crack-cocaine
You really need to read more. I called people rednecks. That's name-calling. Others, like yourself, have made derogatory assumptions based on my location. That's bigotry. Look it up. |
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Victoria, BC
Canada
415 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2012 : 3:31 PM
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Originally posted by Release
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Originally posted by cambium
I forget all about this bigot & think that he must be on crack-cocaine
You really need to read more. I called people rednecks. That's name-calling. Others, like yourself, have made derogatory assumptions based on my location. That's bigotry. Look it up.
"Bigotry is the state of mind of a "bigot", a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one who exhibits intolerance or animosity toward members of a group."
Oh man, that made my day.
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Hope, BC
Canada
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 3:37 PM
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| This thread is what I call "Thread gone wild". |
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Packing Heat on the Trail
