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Edmonton, Alberta Canada
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Posted - 05/03/2012 : 10:53 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Aqua Terra
Hmm I dont have any other questions or input at this time.
Are you sure? You don't want to know my shirt size or gender? You don't want to ask me any on-topic questions like what my astrological sign might be or whether or not I dress to the left or to the right?
Are you sure? |
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Edmonton, Alberta Canada
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Posted - 05/03/2012 : 10:54 PM
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quote: Originally posted by joker
Quick reply here...
You really are an ass.
i can edit also
Did you just learn how to edit now? Good for you. G'night. Go kill something for me soon okay? |
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     canine loving, machete-toting bushwhacking lake seeker, Indiana Jones hat-wearing off-road 4x4 guru
Surrey Hole, BC Canada
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Posted - 05/03/2012 : 11:02 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Release
quote: Originally posted by Aqua Terra
Hmm I dont have any other questions or input at this time.
Are you sure? You don't want to know my shirt size or gender? You don't want to ask me any on-topic questions like what my astrological sign might be or whether or not I dress to the left or to the right?
Are you sure?
Ahh, why not. What you got? You Taurus and wear L shirts on a medium body? You female and like OB or whats the point? |
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Edmonton, Alberta Canada
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Posted - 05/03/2012 : 11:06 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Aqua Terra
quote: Originally posted by Release
quote: Originally posted by Aqua Terra
Hmm I dont have any other questions or input at this time.
Are you sure? You don't want to know my shirt size or gender? You don't want to ask me any on-topic questions like what my astrological sign might be or whether or not I dress to the left or to the right?
Are you sure?
Ahh, why not. What you got? You Taurus and wear L shirts on a medium body? You female and like OB or whats the point?
:-) +1 for humour in the face of aggression. I applaud you. And actually that wasn't a bad guess. Taurus, and L. |
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Posted - 05/03/2012 : 11:12 PM
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quote: Originally posted by AcesHigh
Maybe on a remote hiking trail a gun isn't so bad for someone with their license to carry. But for anyone carrying a gun on a busy hiking trail is pathetic. Similar to taking a gun to the circus to protect yourself from bears. More of a chance of killing a human than an actual bear.
I would agree with you there, Why would I carry a gun on a busy hiking trail? To say the least, I usually break my own trail. But that just offends some more people for " killing the environment". So what can you do, but trek on!
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     canine loving, machete-toting bushwhacking lake seeker, Indiana Jones hat-wearing off-road 4x4 guru
Surrey Hole, BC Canada
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Posted - 05/03/2012 : 11:18 PM
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over the hills and far away Canada
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 05:35 AM
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quote: Originally posted by peddlebike
Personaly, I carry a firearm in some situations. Short shotgun or heavy revolver. No hiking trails where I go, and I look after myself.
Is your "heavy revolver" a restricted weapon? My understanding is that there are strict laws about transport and use of these. Is it even legal to hike around with one, or shoot them anywhere but at a firing range? I thought not, but could be wrong. |
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Hope, BC Canada
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 07:31 AM
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If the hiking trail was in Chicago or Detroit I'd have no objection to packing heat on the trail.  |
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Finally stopping that crazy suffering that is ice, climbing to concentrate on great ski tours!
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 08:15 AM
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Victoria, BC Canada
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 08:27 AM
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My 2cents (okay, more like $1.41)
First and foremost, this thread was never ever about trophy hunting for bears, or trophy hunting in general, or even hunting period. You've done a fantastic job of hijacking (seizing a vehicle by force) this thread and using it to push your textbook liberal agenda onto a group of members that were discussing methods of wilderness protection. It was a C grade thread to begin with and I saw rod casting the moment I laid eyes on it, but none the less you took it to a redline I didn't think was possible. Well played.
Firearms ownership is deeply engrained in Canadian culture and you're not changing that, nobody is. That doesn't come close to suggesting you have to like guns, there are a great many who do not. A great asset to Canadians (or for that matter anyone in a free world) is the fundamental right to agree or oppose anything and to voice that opinion. Where those rights stop however, is when you lock your own opinions into place and verbally offend every other person on earth. Entertainingly, your previous post defining "redneck" ended up describing you perfectly, at least in relation to this thread.
You have passionate views on the fate of our bears. I do not agree with alot of your opinions in the matter, but it is important for people to maintain their values so I say stick to it. You should have started a new thread though, instead of strong-arming your way into this one, and I don't mind saying... you lost your cool big time. You will reach absolutely no one by storming upstairs and slamming your bedroom door.
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Ladysmith, B.C. Canada
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 08:31 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Candy Sack
quote: Originally posted by peddlebike
Personaly, I carry a firearm in some situations. Short shotgun or heavy revolver. No hiking trails where I go, and I look after myself.
Is your "heavy revolver" a restricted weapon? My understanding is that there are strict laws about transport and use of these. Is it even legal to hike around with one, or shoot them anywhere but at a firing range? I thought not, but could be wrong.
Prospector .... and no, my sidearm is not restricted while I'm engaged in my business of prospecting. |
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Ladysmith, B.C. Canada
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 08:55 AM
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Realease ..... you are obviously passionate about bears and bear hunting. Many years ago, myself and a few others approached the B.C. Provincial Government to get the status of bears changed from the vague 'trophy' status to the game animal status. By doing this, it would be manditory to remove all edible portions of the bear carcass. There were other changes that we suggested to the provincial government also. Some were addressed, and some were not. The regulations were changed in our favor regarding 'removing edible portions' in the case of the black bear. The govt. didn't budge on the grizzly status however........
I found it difficult to follow your logic in your arguements against firearms/bear hunting and references to 'manliness' ..... Perhaps starting a thread about your bear hunting thoughts, and inviting thoughtful ideas would get you 'farther down the road' .......
This thread was sensationalized by the OP in his choice of words .... 'heat'
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 09:33 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Release
[quote] I have the data. You have shit.
I will use this line today at work. |
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Edmonton, Alberta Canada
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 09:45 AM
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quote: Originally posted by HagensborgViking
My 2cents (okay, more like $1.41)
First and foremost, this thread was never ever about trophy hunting for bears, or trophy hunting in general, or even hunting period. You've done a fantastic job of hijacking (seizing a vehicle by force) this thread and using it to push your textbook liberal agenda.........
HAHAHAHAHAHA....I stopped reading right there.
1. This was never a "thread" that someone could hijack. wildtrekker has admitted more than a couple of times on it that his only purpose was to troll and get reactions, (and it wouldn't matter if he admitted it, it's obvious). Subsequently there was never any "thread" to hijack in the first place, so quit crying princess.
2. Fuck you and your bullshit braindead laughable American-rightwing "rush limbaugh" vernacular. Wanting to keep bears alive and off the extinction list isn't a 'liberal agenda' - AFTER ALL HUNTERS ARE "CNSERVATIONISTS" REMEMBER? LOL. SO SUPPOSEDLY THEY WANT TO KEEP THEM OFF THE LIST AS WELL. Guess the hunters are liberal too. Already we can tell you're just a mindless dingbat who thinks he knows politics but doesn't, who thinks he knows what socialism is but doesn't, who thinks he knows what liberal is but doesn't. Go read a book for once.
No one gives a fuck about your 2 cents princess, it's not even worth that much. And I don't give a fuck about the "deeply engrained gun ownership" in Canada or who owns a gun. I give a fuck about shooting animals (bears) that weren't doing anything for no good reason at all. Just go fuck yourself HagensborgViking, you're an instant joke.
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Victoria, BC Canada
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 09:50 AM
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Edmonton, Alberta Canada
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 09:52 AM
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quote: Originally posted by peddlebike
Realease ..... you are obviously passionate about bears and bear hunting. Many years ago, myself and a few others approached the B.C. Provincial Government to get the status of bears changed from the vague 'trophy' status to the game animal status. By doing this, it would be manditory to remove all edible portions of the bear carcass. There were other changes that we suggested to the provincial government also. Some were addressed, and some were not. The regulations were changed in our favor regarding 'removing edible portions' in the case of the black bear. The govt. didn't budge on the grizzly status however........
Thanks for the info. That is interesting.
quote: Originally posted by peddlebike
I found it difficult to follow your logic in your arguements against firearms/bear hunting and references to 'manliness' ..... Perhaps starting a thread about your bear hunting thoughts, and inviting thoughtful ideas would get you 'farther down the road' .......
This thread was sensationalized by the OP in his choice of words .... 'heat'
I'm not going to start a new thread. I don't actually enjoy this quite as much as it may appear. I've said my peace and obviously someone will come along to keep it going, but eventually it will die (or not) and that works for me. |
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Edmonton, Alberta Canada
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 09:54 AM
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quote: Originally posted by HagensborgViking blah blah blah blah blah-diddly-blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Wake me when you get past your infantile goo-goo-ga-ga talk.
Hilarious: obviously HagensborgViking has been waiting around all morning furiously hitting the refresh button waiting for a response. lol. |
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Victoria, BC Canada
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 09:56 AM
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Edmonton, Alberta Canada
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 09:58 AM
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I challenge you to make one single entry containing anything you would actually have to guts to say to my face little girl.
Edit: Edited for your amusement and my freedom to do it any time I want. |
Edited by - Release on 05/04/2012 09:58 AM |
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Edmonton, Alberta Canada
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 10:31 AM
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quote: Originally posted by peddlebike
Realease .....
I found it difficult to follow your logic in your arguements against firearms/bear hunting and references to 'manliness' ..... Perhaps starting a thread about your bear hunting thoughts, and inviting thoughtful ideas would get you 'farther down the road' .......
peddlebike: This deserves a better answer than the one I gave you.
Admittedly things did start to get jarbeled up between my outright hate of trophy hunting and my mere distaste of hunting bear for food. Trophy hunting, imo, should just be plain outlawed. It personifies the direct opposite of what hunting is supposed to be or ever was imo. It is a perversion of any ancient tradition of hunting. So obviously I feel more opposed to that. Hunting bear for food is also something I don't approve of, but I timidly accept insomuch as at least the animal is not going to waste. It is my opinion though that hunting for survival is the only good excuse to kill an animal, especially ones in such low numbers as something like a bear (deer for example are nowhere near endangered and can stillbe found all over the continent).
Fortunately or unfortunately (depending on how you want to look at it) man has long surpassed the need to hunt for survival - speaking generally here, there are still aboriginals in Canada who do it for exactly that purpose but then strangely their hunting never ever seems to effect the overall numbers of the creature in question. I have hunted and I know what it is that attracts "real" hunters to do it. One gets an almost spiritual connection with our early human ancestry and even the animal being hunted. They get a unique understanding of the natural world around us. This has value; I admit it. It's actually quite the learning experience and I would even suggest that someone who has never done it is missing something quite profound and should give it a try just once. But sooner or later one asks themselves "Do I really have to kill this animal? Do I really have a good reason to do it?", and the answer is inevitably "no, I don't". I'm not the only one who has come to this conclusion. I know a couple hunters have exchanged their rifles for cameras. They still track, they still lay in wait, they still exercise their hunting skills but at the moment of truth they take a picture instead of a life.
In a nutshell trophy hunting is something I would like to see outlawed, but regular (bear) hunting for food (that you don't really need) is something I would rather remain within the bounds of persuasion. That is to say I would rather talk people out of it than see a law against it. Much rather actually a complete law against hunting would be ludacris. I hope that clarifies my position for you better.
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