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Slo mo sno shuin' Great Wall trekkin' triathalon doin' pale ale drinkin' all Patrick, all the time, smoothie
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Posted - 02/01/2010 : 7:01 PM
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"Be sure to tell her how purdy she looks against the sky in that red flannel shirt"
OK, I'm taking notes here........ |
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Fleece thong wearin, Buntzen Lurkin, mystic poet mountain man and international spokesman of the friends of the white squirrel society
Port Moody, B.C.
Canada
5600 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2010 : 7:03 PM
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Mountain Grammar Police
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Sardonic sandbagging scoundrel, Cascade Climbers lobotomized spraymeister, space blanket flyer, new millennium vulgarian betaboy and friend to all squids
Climbing, a mountain
Canada
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Posted - 02/01/2010 : 7:14 PM
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Originally posted by Scorpio
"the view on women changed drastically in the past few decades".
So have women.
...diapers? |
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1489 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2010 : 7:47 PM
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We have a Reader's Digest from 1957, wow, so out of date , especially on topics to " keep the woman of the house so very happy"..." how to comfort the Husband after a day of work"... .
As I said so outdated, it is a relic. |
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Calgary, Alberta
Andorra
2351 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2010 : 9:10 PM
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Originally posted by Dru
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Originally posted by 0bakasan
the view on women changed drastically in the past few decades.
interesting how people viewed women this way only a few decades ago.
wasn't "people" so much as it was men. some of them anyways.
These days, most continuing limitations are self-imposed by women. I've seen some, but few cases of men clearly viewing women as lesser these days. I have seen more cases of women limiting themselves by definitions of what they 'can' or 'can't' or 'should' do. |
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Vancouver, BC
Canada
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Posted - 02/01/2010 : 9:31 PM
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*snicker*
"It might be better to substitute for the female of the species, in place of a clothing and equipment list, a list of what not to take. However, this would take several volumes and would exceed the scope of this manual."
Funny stuff Longshadow! |
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Night owl posting,Subie driving, backpacking Dad who is perpetually trying to catch up to his kids on the trail.
Vancouver, BC
Canada
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Posted - 02/01/2010 : 11:51 PM
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Amazing. I know one little female hiking companion who exceeded the absolute upper limit when she was 12 or 13 years old and never looked back. I never thought of her as the husky type ...
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Posted - 02/02/2010 : 08:49 AM
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Originally posted by Eryne
I'm a girl and I can only carry 25 pounds.
That's the same thing my girlfriend said after I told her about this article. I think the editor got his sections mixed up when he suggested what to filter! ["we should prefer that women turn immediately to the next chapter and thus avoid getting any ideas which could make them any more difficult to handle than they are"]
That was an interesting read though. Times have certainly changed. |
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Happy go lucky, plaid wearin, postholin, safeway gaitor sportin, old-school film shootin, giver of many regards
LOGAN LAKE, B.C.
Canada
8903 Posts |
Posted - 02/02/2010 : 09:03 AM
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Originally posted by ChuckLW
Amazing. I know one little female hiking companion who exceeded the absolute upper limit when she was 12 or 13 years old and never looked back. I never thought of her as the husky type ...
Nice.... Never judge a book by its cover.
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Fleece thong wearin, Buntzen Lurkin, mystic poet mountain man and international spokesman of the friends of the white squirrel society
Port Moody, B.C.
Canada
5600 Posts |
Posted - 02/02/2010 : 4:26 PM
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| On a serious note, I have hiked with some tough gals that would put more than a few men I know to shame. I have seen some incredible feats where Mental Toughness comes into the equation. |
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1489 Posts |
Posted - 02/02/2010 : 4:39 PM
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My 9-year old now wears size 10 boots and shoes. The Bigger the foot the longer and faster and balanced the walking, I tell her .
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Grimshaw, Alberta
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Hither & Yon, Alberta (usually)
Canada
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Posted - 02/03/2010 : 1:42 PM
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I hate to say it (and I sure wouldn't presume to include any of the wonderful women on this wesite) but I've run into a number of women who I would never hike with again.
They're the ones who, rather than taking responsibility for their own actions and decisions, expect to be taken care of when they're hiking by whatever men happen to be along. They're the ones who decide to wander off down some little side path and expect everybody to drop everything and go looking for them. The ones who buy all the right clothes and the most expensive boots, but head out for a full day climb carrying nothing more that a half-litre of water and an apple. They're the ones who hopelessly over-estimate their own skills and strength then want everybody else to turn around because they're tired and sore. The ones who carry rain gear but don't but it on, then complain because they're cold and wet. They'll make sure the battery on their (out-of-range) cell phone is fully-charged, but forget the GPS, the maps and the compass (or they just don't know how to use them). They'll tackle a climb that's way beyond their abilities, then wimp out halfway down and expect everybody to rescue them. They're the ones who are happy to 'just tag along', paying no attention to how they got there, and expect somebody else to show them how to get home.
It sounds like that's the kind of women this manual refers to, and a lot of female hikers used to be that way. Unfortunately, some still are. And, frankly, there are men who do the same. Dammit! It's the mountains! If you can't look after yourself, don't go!
Give me a woman who can get herself out of trouble, or better still, who knows how to stay out of trouble in the first place. I'd rather go hiking with somebody who doesn't need me along than one who can't even take care of herself.
Okay, I'm a chauvinistic bastard, but you've all met people just like that. Paris Hilton, stay away!
(How's that for a rant, Rick Mercer?)
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Posted - 02/03/2010 : 3:48 PM
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Originally posted by peter1955
I hate to say it (and I sure wouldn't presume to include any of the wonderful women on this wesite) but I've run into a number of women who I would never hike with again.
They're the ones who, rather than taking responsibility for their own actions and decisions, expect to be taken care of when they're hiking by whatever men happen to be along. They're the ones who decide to wander off down some little side path and expect everybody to drop everything and go looking for them. The ones who buy all the right clothes and the most expensive boots, but head out for a full day climb carrying nothing more that a half-litre of water and an apple. They're the ones who hopelessly over-estimate their own skills and strength then want everybody else to turn around because they're tired and sore. The ones who carry rain gear but don't but it on, then complain because they're cold and wet. They'll make sure the battery on their (out-of-range) cell phone is fully-charged, but forget the GPS, the maps and the compass (or they just don't know how to use them). They'll tackle a climb that's way beyond their abilities, then wimp out halfway down and expect everybody to rescue them. They're the ones who are happy to 'just tag along', paying no attention to how they got there, and expect somebody else to show them how to get home.
It sounds like that's the kind of women this manual refers to, and a lot of female hikers used to be that way. Unfortunately, some still are. And, frankly, there are men who do the same. Dammit! It's the mountains! If you can't look after yourself, don't go!
Give me a woman who can get herself out of trouble, or better still, who knows how to stay out of trouble in the first place. I'd rather go hiking with somebody who doesn't need me along than one who can't even take care of herself.
Okay, I'm a chauvinistic bastard, but you've all met people just like that. Paris Hilton, stay away!
(How's that for a rant, Rick Mercer?)
There is one in every crowd.
Men included.
Never forget the time me and my relatives were hiking Ripple rock Trail [ a wuss could do it ] and we heard and saw a couple of guys from the alternate lifestyle that were totin' multiple Bear-bells ALL Over their clothing. For a moment there I thought I was in the Alps hearing Cow-Bells.
In a word > Tourons. |
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Calgary, Alberta
Andorra
2351 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2010 : 4:54 PM
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Originally posted by peter1955
...rant...
So what you're saying is that there are some people, both men and women, who are obnoxious for failing to do their part in the preparation and load-carrying, and it's often the newbies. I think that's a fair complaint with no gender specifics needed.
I think the newbie nonhiker women tend more to the 'I don't like sweating, and since was I expected to do things for myself' vein, but the more-common-in-men 'I don't need any of that stuff or skills. I could build me a log cabin and catch deer with my bare hands if I had to' newbie nonhiker is equally annoying.
I think there are some useful bits in it though as a guide to taking out a friend you would like to introduce to mountaining who isn't too sure it's going to be fun. We just no longer assume that is all women. |
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Fleece thong wearin, Buntzen Lurkin, mystic poet mountain man and international spokesman of the friends of the white squirrel society
Port Moody, B.C.
Canada
5600 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2010 : 5:03 PM
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Paris Hilton, stay away!
Peter, she is not really that bad ! You just have to convince her to leave that stupid little dog at home.
I was shocked however to find out Neiman Marcus sold Gucci Hiking Boots for "only" $600 |
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n van, bc
Canada
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Posted - 02/03/2010 : 7:59 PM
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"Finally, one little luxury item. If you are curvaceous, dig a hole for your hips at night"
I'm presupposing things like this were the norm to be said to women at the time... But was this author also trying to get laid? Like, "look at me, I'm all macho" style? I guess it's a good thing he didn't know our internet symbols at the time. He could have included them:
"Finally, one little luxury item. If you are curvaceous, dig a hole for your hips at night ;) |
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Coffee swillin', wine lovin', Owl fearin' Andie McDowell stunt double, who sports retro gear
Vancouver, BC
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Posted - 02/03/2010 : 8:32 PM
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| Actually, the hole for the hips doesn't sound like a bad idea at all!! The number of times I've woken up with uncomfortable pressure from my hip bone digging into the ground! I'm going to try that and I will report back to you. |
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Calgary, Alberta
Andorra
2351 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2010 : 10:05 PM
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Originally posted by the743
"Finally, one little luxury item. If you are curvaceous, dig a hole for your hips at night"
I'm presupposing things like this were the norm to be said to women at the time... But was this author also trying to get laid? Like, "look at me, I'm all macho" style?
I wouldn't be offended if someone said that to me now - I don't see what would be wrong with it. What would it have to do with getting laid? Other than the careful choice of 'curvaceous' rather than 'broad-hipped'.
If you are a side-sleeper, especially one years ago before the awesomeness of light inflatable mattress pads, hips really do get sore. I imagine that the more pronounced your hips are, or the more bony, the bigger problem it would be. |
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Hither & Yon, Alberta (usually)
Canada
1030 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2010 : 07:17 AM
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Originally posted by The Hiker
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Paris Hilton, stay away!
Peter, she is not really that bad ! You just have to convince her to leave that stupid little dog at home.
You could always eat the dog, or feed it to the bears. |
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Hiking the good ol days. Don't be too offended...
