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Urban trekker
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Vancouver, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 11/05/2009 :  3:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply to this posting
Received this in an email from Metro Vancouver regarding the Grouse Grind:

The Grouse Grind is now closed until further notice.
This closure is due to high winds and forecasted heavy rainfall.
We will continue to monitor weather & trail conditions and update when trail status changes
.


Cheers

Urban trekker

slothboy
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 Posted - 11/05/2009 :  4:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks for the update

KARVITK
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Abbotsford, B.C.
Canada

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 Posted - 11/05/2009 :  7:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh Shoot...

I was looking for ward to it. Wonder if they also include the BCMC trail as well in the closure.

K

oldgoat
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North Vancouver, BC
Canada

59 Posts

 Posted - 11/05/2009 :  7:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Wonder if they also include the BCMC trail as well in the closure.
When Metro Vancouver closes the Grouse Grind they usually include the BCMC and adjacent trails in their closure.

Refer to their Grouse Grind Waiver and Release of Liability at

http://www.metrovancouver.org/region/grousegrind/Pages/default.aspx


Edited by - oldgoat on 11/05/2009 7:50 PM

Spectrum
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Surrey, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 11/05/2009 :  7:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Rachelo
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Calgary, Alberta
Andorra

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 Posted - 11/05/2009 :  8:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's quite the graphic.....
From innocuous to entertaining to strangely graphic.

Edited by - Rachelo on 11/05/2009 8:42 PM

Urban trekker
Junior Member


Vancouver, BC
Canada

108 Posts

 Posted - 11/16/2009 :  11:52 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's official according to Metro Vancouver:

GROUSE GRIND
Under Full Winter Closure

KARVITK
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Abbotsford, B.C.
Canada

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 Posted - 11/16/2009 :  12:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Urban trekker

It's official according to Metro Vancouver:

GROUSE GRIND
Under Full Winter Closure




Thanks for the Update.....

K

judas391
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 Posted - 11/16/2009 :  12:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is there another way to get up to crown or goat if the bcmc trail is closed? Btw, does anyone know if there's enough snow on crown/goat to warrant snowshoes?

scottN
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Vancouver, BC
Canada

1512 Posts

 Posted - 11/16/2009 :  1:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by judas391

Is there another way to get up to crown or goat if the bcmc trail is closed? Btw, does anyone know if there's enough snow on crown/goat to warrant snowshoes?



Yes. Just walk around the locked gate and hike up whichever trail you want. Read this before you go: http://avalanche.ca/cac/bulletins/cac-bulletins/north-shore/

Edited to add:

Grouse Grind is the steepest and most avalanche prone trail. Trails further east (BCMC, Larsen, etc) are safer.

Edited by - scottN on 11/20/2009 10:17 AM

hikingpaul
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Van, bc
Canada

636 Posts

 Posted - 11/16/2009 :  4:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
is the BCMC ever officially closed? i think only the Grind gets all the signboards and warnings etc.
i did the BCMC today... kinda like hiking up a waterfall. some slush and compact snow at top section. pouring rain all the way. as usual there were a few other poor souls braving the Grind or BCMC.

mick range
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 Posted - 11/16/2009 :  5:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by judas391

Is there another way to get up to crown or goat if the bcmc trail is closed? Btw, does anyone know if there's enough snow on crown/goat to warrant snowshoes?



You can hike the Skyline or MacKay Creek Trails to the bottom of the cut, then hike the Simic Trail to the chalet. On those trails the avalanche hazard is almost always next to nothing

KARVITK
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 Posted - 11/16/2009 :  9:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mick range

[quote]Originally posted by judas391
[.......
You can hike the Skyline or MacKay Creek Trails to the bottom of the cut, then hike the Simic Trail to the chalet. On those trails the avalanche hazard is almost always next to nothing



Good idea, don't recall doing these two trails that way. Might try them sometime if I know where to start.

K

NS Explorer
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North Vancouver
Canada

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 Posted - 11/17/2009 :  6:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
scottN Posted - 11/16/2009 : 1:26 PM
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quote:
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Originally posted by judas391

Is there another way to get up to crown or goat if the bcmc trail is closed? Btw, does anyone know if there's enough snow on crown/goat to warrant snowshoes?

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Yes. Just walk around the locked gate and hike up whichever trail you want. Read this before you go: http://avalanche.ca/cac/bulletins/cac-bulletins/north-shore/


Pretty irresponsible posting this type of thing on the internet, scott.

DPM
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Vancouver, British Columbia
Canada

618 Posts

 Posted - 11/17/2009 :  10:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NS Explorer

quote:
scottN Posted - 11/16/2009 : 1:26 PM
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quote:
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Originally posted by judas391

Is there another way to get up to crown or goat if the bcmc trail is closed? Btw, does anyone know if there's enough snow on crown/goat to warrant snowshoes?

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Yes. Just walk around the locked gate and hike up whichever trail you want. Read this before you go: http://avalanche.ca/cac/bulletins/cac-bulletins/north-shore/


Pretty irresponsible posting this type of thing on the internet, scott.



judas391: check the bulltein cited by scottN - they will start becoming available regularly soon (assuming CAA's funding continues)

judas391 & NS Explorer - it's about personal responsibility for your actions - you cannot blame beta posted on the internet - do not blame others - take responsibility for your choices - found those choices upon appropriate training, equipment, experience and judgment - and if you choose "wrong" be ready to deal with it.

guntis
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Smurf Village, BC
Canada

1845 Posts

 Posted - 11/18/2009 :  09:05 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
DPM, the point he's making is that encouraging people to break rules is irresponsible. The Grouse Grind is a dangerous trail in the winter. Experienced people will know this, and are fully capable of figuring out how to get up the mountain. Encouraging inexperienced people to go around a locked gate increases the chances of NSR having to perform yet another rescue that could have been avoidable.

I don't know your experience level, but that's irrelevant.

DPM
Intermediate Member


Vancouver, British Columbia
Canada

618 Posts

 Posted - 11/18/2009 :  09:21 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by guntis

DPM, the point he's making is that encouraging people to break rules is irresponsible. The Grouse Grind is a dangerous trail in the winter. Experienced people will know this, and are fully capable of figuring out how to get up the mountain. Encouraging inexperienced people to go around a locked gate increases the chances of NSR having to perform yet another rescue that could have been avoidable.

I don't know your experience level, but that's irrelevant.



I didn't think he was encouraging anyone to do anything, experienced or inexperienced.
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Spunky
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Mission, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 11/18/2009 :  09:22 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DPM

quote:
Originally posted by NS Explorer

quote:
scottN Posted - 11/16/2009 : 1:26 PM
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quote:
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Originally posted by judas391

Is there another way to get up to crown or goat if the bcmc trail is closed? Btw, does anyone know if there's enough snow on crown/goat to warrant snowshoes?

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Yes. Just walk around the locked gate and hike up whichever trail you want. Read this before you go: http://avalanche.ca/cac/bulletins/cac-bulletins/north-shore/


Pretty irresponsible posting this type of thing on the internet, scott.



judas391: check the bulltein cited by scottN - they will start becoming available regularly soon (assuming CAA's funding continues)

judas391 & NS Explorer - it's about personal responsibility for your actions - you cannot blame beta posted on the internet - do not blame others - take responsibility for your choices - found those choices upon appropriate training, equipment, experience and judgment - and if you choose "wrong" be ready to deal with it.



Meaning: NSR & NS Explorer to come & save your ass.

Edited by - Spunky on 11/18/2009 09:22 AM

swebster
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New Westminster, BC
Canada

1371 Posts

 Posted - 11/18/2009 :  09:28 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is it really breaking the rules or is the trail closure "just a suggestion"?
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 Posted - 11/18/2009 :  09:52 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by swebster

Is it really breaking the rules or is the trail closure "just a suggestion"?



For the part of the trail Grouse owns, it's really breaking the rules. Penalties may apply.
If there is any Crown or District owned (public) land it is a "suggestion" or "recommendation" for that part only.

MarkT2008
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 Posted - 11/18/2009 :  09:54 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Did the BCMC this morning there was snow on the last 1/3 of the trail, but dont need snowshoes yet, and there is signs saying that the grind is closed, but none saying the BCMC is closed, I wonder if the GVRD can closed the BCMC ?
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