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Brussels
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Posted - 08/21/2009 : 10:11 AM
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I want to use Greyhound (the only alternative is hitchhiking) to reach the trailheads at Mt Robson for Berg Lake and also at Lytton for the Stein Valley. I need to carry gaz cartridges for my trekking there. I'll also carry bearspray during all my trip in Canada.
These items are forbidden in luggage aboard Greyhound busses. Do they sometimes search the luggage ? Must I hide this stuff in my sleeping bag and clothes ? What do I risk if they find it ?
Thank you, Pierre |
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Posted - 08/21/2009 : 11:07 AM
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| I checked with Greyhound and the best suggestion they could come up with is to take the bus to Jasper and buy all that stuff there, then catch a ride up to the trailhead from there. Once somebody sees your hiking poles and knapsack, they're sure to pick you up. At least I would... |
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Nanaimo, BC
Canada
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Posted - 08/21/2009 : 11:08 AM
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| I have never been searched when using greyhound..Should not be a problem I would think. |
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Alberta-based choss climbin', flame throwin', rappel lovin', ass talkin' hater who doesn't like "Gumby" for a descriptor
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Posted - 08/21/2009 : 11:11 AM
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| I have used Greyhound ALOT and have never seen them search anyone. This was before the guy had his head cut off though so it may be different now, but just put the stuff in your baggage in such a way that it won't puncture and you'll be fine. |
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Posted - 08/21/2009 : 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by time2clmb
I have used Greyhound ALOT and have never seen them search anyone. This was before the guy had his head cut off though so it may be different now, but just put the stuff in your baggage in such a way that it won't puncture and you'll be fine.
I agree, but they're pretty paranoid around Edmonton now since that's where the head-chopper got on. I've seen them look through carry-on bags and some (not all) stowable luggage when you board. Somebody with an accent might be subject to closer scrutiny. The risk is that, if they find anything, they're likely to pull you out of line and you'll miss your bus. That would be a lousy way to start a once-in-a-lifetime trip. You'd probably be better off boarding at secondary depot, like the southside one, or at a suburban one like Spruce Grove, where they don't check closely.
My wife and I were flying to Victoria one time a couple of years ago. She worked at 7-Eleven at the time and when she got home, she did a quick change to make the flight but forgot she had two box-cutters in her purse. She has a bit of Metis in her and has a darker tint to her skin, so when she went through the inspection, they automatically checked her shoes and her purse. They didn't look twice at me. They turned on her cell phone to make sure it was working and not a bomb, looked through her diabetes stuff for sharp objects, but missed the two knives!!!
She only noticed she had them when we were sitting in the bar waiting to board, but the choices were limited at that point. If we'd taken them back to Security ("Hey! We forgot to give you these!") we would never have been allowed on the plane at all until they'd searched us from stem to stern, checked all our luggage, and held the whole flight up for at least a couple of hours. We wrapped the box cutters in a napkin and put them in the garbage can at the bar. |
Edited by - peter1955 on 08/21/2009 1:16 PM |
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Alberta-based choss climbin', flame throwin', rappel lovin', ass talkin' hater who doesn't like "Gumby" for a descriptor
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Posted - 08/21/2009 : 12:37 PM
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she did a quick change to make the flight but forgot she had two box-cutters in her purse
You are comparing airport security to bus station security. Totally different. |
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Port Moody, BC
Canada
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Posted - 08/21/2009 : 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by willemspie
I want to use Greyhound (the only alternative is hitchhiking) to reach the trailheads at Mt Robson for Berg Lake and also at Lytton for the Stein Valley. I need to carry gaz cartridges for my trekking there. I'll also carry bearspray during all my trip in Canada.
These items are forbidden in luggage aboard Greyhound busses. Do they sometimes search the luggage ? Must I hide this stuff in my sleeping bag and clothes ? What do I risk if they find it ?
Thank you, Pierre
Don't stress yourself over this. Put them in the bag and keep 2 eyes open for the head chopping guys - there is enough fuel in the bus to take you all to hell (or those that chose not to bring prohibited items, to heaven), if anything. This is not US border patrol after all. You'd also probably be surprised how many idiots hold job positions that they can't handle. I remember the couple Canucks hockey games I went to...they will check your back pack if you have one, which I had with me both times. My pack has 2 main compartments, and one of them had a disposable water bottle, and the other one had my camera with a long lens. Not that I was hiding anything, but they took away my water bottle, because they don't allow them inside the arena, and never checked the 2nd compartment where the camera was! Shouldn't they at least tell by the weight of the pack, that it's a bit too heavy for an empty pack? And the same thing happened twice on different days with different idiots checking. |
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Port Moody, BC
Canada
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Posted - 08/21/2009 : 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by peter1955
We wrapped the box cutters in a napkin and put them in the garbage can at the bar.
Why? You were already past the ckeck-point. Or were you afraid that you wouldn't be able to hold yourself back from killing a stewardess when she spills hot coffee over you? |
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Posted - 08/21/2009 : 1:07 PM
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Originally posted by time2clmb
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she did a quick change to make the flight but forgot she had two box-cutters in her purse
You are comparing airport security to bus station security. Totally different.
Quite true. The point I was making with my little tale was that, to me, I would rather wait until I got to Jasper to buy the proscribed items than miss my bus the bus while I convinced some security goon of my good intentions. |
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Posted - 08/21/2009 : 1:15 PM
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Originally posted by Arnold
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Originally posted by peter1955
We wrapped the box cutters in a napkin and put them in the garbage can at the bar.
Why? You were already past the ckeck-point. Or were you afraid that you wouldn't be able to hold yourself back from killing a stewardess when she spills hot coffee over you?
I'm sure you would preferred to have thought this through before you posted it. It would only have taken a moment.
Because they were 'box cutters' (remember that Sept. 11th hijacking?) it would have been catastrophic if someone had seen them while we were on the plane. Let's say one had fallen out on the floor, or a stewardess had happened to get a peek inside the purse and seen them?
We would have immediately been subject to arrest for smuggling weapons that we knew were prohibited onto a plane. Further, most people would have freaked and assumed she was a terrorist intent on killing them all.
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Port Moody, BC
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Posted - 08/21/2009 : 1:42 PM
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Originally posted by peter1955
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Originally posted by Arnold
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Originally posted by peter1955
We wrapped the box cutters in a napkin and put them in the garbage can at the bar.
Why? You were already past the ckeck-point. Or were you afraid that you wouldn't be able to hold yourself back from killing a stewardess when she spills hot coffee over you?
I'm sure you would preferred to have thought this through before you posted it. It would only have taken a moment.
Because they were 'box cutters' (remember that Sept. 11th hijacking?) it would have been catastrophic if someone had seen them while we were on the plane. Let's say one had fallen out on the floor, or a stewardess had happened to get a peek inside the purse and seen them?
We would have immediately been subject to arrest for smuggling weapons that we knew were prohibited onto a plane. Further, most people would have freaked and assumed she was a terrorist intent on killing them all.
My God, talking about being paranoid (one fallen out on the floor, a stewardess peeked inside the purse, arrest for smuggling weapons, etc)... I don't want to explain the simple things, because then I'll have to explain how important it is to always wear a diper, because you might crap your pants once accidentally on the plane, and then God knows what everyone will think and do to you. |
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High River, (just south of Calgary eh!), Alberta
Canada
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Posted - 08/21/2009 : 2:26 PM
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Originally posted by willemspie
I want to use Greyhound (the only alternative is hitchhiking) to reach the trailheads at Mt Robson for Berg Lake and also at Lytton for the Stein Valley. I need to carry gaz cartridges for my trekking there. I'll also carry bearspray during all my trip in Canada.
These items are forbidden in luggage aboard Greyhound busses. Do they sometimes search the luggage ? Must I hide this stuff in my sleeping bag and clothes ? What do I risk if they find it ?
Thank you, Pierre
It's against the rules because those items pose a risk to baggage handlers and other passengers etc. Just make other arrangements for getting those items to the trailhead. |
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Posted - 08/21/2009 : 3:11 PM
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Tsk, tsk, Arnold. I repeat "I'm sure you would preferred to have thought this through before you posted it. It would only have taken a moment."
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2421 Posts |
Posted - 08/21/2009 : 3:17 PM
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[/quote]It's against the rules because those items pose a risk to baggage handlers and other passengers etc. Just make other arrangements for getting those items to the trailhead.
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I agree with Sodbuster. Imagine a can of bearspray breaking open because somebody tossed your knapsack into the bus storage too hard, or just at the wrong angle. Or a can of LPG leaking into the compartment then igniting. Nasty for all concerned.
I still think the best solution is to buy it in Jasper so you can avoid any unecessary hassles. As I said, if this is a once-in-a-lifetime trip, why take the chance on ruining it? |
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Hope, BC
Canada
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Posted - 08/21/2009 : 3:21 PM
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Well he does spell diaper "Diper"  |
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Alberta-based choss climbin', flame throwin', rappel lovin', ass talkin' hater who doesn't like "Gumby" for a descriptor
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Coquitlam, BC
Canada
153 Posts |
Posted - 08/21/2009 : 6:15 PM
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| Hah. I'm going to Berg Lake Trail today! regardless it will be an awesome place to hike |
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Peace River, AB
Canada
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Posted - 08/21/2009 : 8:03 PM
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I have heard that Greyhound is becoming particular about personal belongings carried onto the coach. Apparently even laptops are not being allowed on there. As for checked luggage under the bus, I can't see it being thoroughly searched, but it could land you in some trouble if gas or bear spray was discovered.
In Jasper, a good place to start is Source for Sports on Patricia Street. There are also a few specialty outdoors stores around. |
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Posted - 08/22/2009 : 3:42 PM
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You all telling us that Grey Hound or others do not have secure Lock-ups for "flagged items"??
Hard to believe, even bar-tenders will hold our Big-Fracken-Knives as we request. |
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Alberta-based choss climbin', flame throwin', rappel lovin', ass talkin' hater who doesn't like "Gumby" for a descriptor
6302 Posts |
Posted - 08/22/2009 : 3:57 PM
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Originally posted by cambium
You all telling us that Grey Hound or others do not have secure Lock-ups for "flagged items"??
Hard to believe, even bar-tenders will hold our Big-Fracken-Knives as we request.
WTF are you talking about? Go read the link. It's very clear with what they do and do not allow on checked bags, and on carry on. |
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Posted - 08/22/2009 : 4:14 PM
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Originally posted by time2clmb
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Originally posted by cambium
You all telling us that Grey Hound or others do not have secure Lock-ups for "flagged items"??
Hard to believe, even bar-tenders will hold our Big-Fracken-Knives as we request.
WTF are you talking about? Go read the link. It's very clear with what they do and do not allow on checked bags, and on carry on.
... Original post quote ..." forbidden on luggage and carry ons..."
I responded... Secure lock-up >>> For Declared Items<<<
Just asking a question, can you not declare an item for lock up? Seems reasonable for a paying costumer
to expect this service. Air canada and Jet-west, etc. have policies/provisions.
Cops must use Hospital Lock-ups for their pistols.
If Greyhound does not have this feature then they are behind in service - concepts. |
Edited by - cambium on 08/22/2009 4:17 PM |
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