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port hardy, b.c.
Canada
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Posted - 08/14/2009 : 8:48 PM
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yo dog people...come on up to the the north end of vancouver island...and bring your pooch.The trail is challenging..there are some spots where a lifting harness would be a good idea...but many have dog waddled from one end to the other...(60k) and loved it.Even your 4 legger loves the salt-chuck!
Hope to see you and your mutts soon....geo
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Vancouver, BC
Canada
1321 Posts |
Posted - 08/14/2009 : 10:38 PM
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3022 Posts |
Posted - 08/15/2009 : 11:38 AM
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Hey it is a park,and wilderness observe all rules and etiquette, yield to other users and wildlife.
Do not disturb the peace. |
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port hardy, b.c.
Canada
26 Posts |
Posted - 08/17/2009 : 7:30 PM
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hey sweb....just trying to give you an option. We are proud of the area we live in.I am sure dog owners are always looking for a "new" adventure to share with their canine...and I am sure some are happy to know that there is another choice.
geoquote:
Originally posted by swebster
Hmm, pondering whether to click the "report spam" button... Perhaps you should purchase an advertisement on CT or something?
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Posted - 08/17/2009 : 8:07 PM
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... well , my daughter and i { and son} were up near there 2007 and angled on a bluff 25'feet
from waters edge above kelp beds, moving tide, 50+ feet of water, remote scenery, and then My daughter {7 years old} shreaks, a large black animal is crashing the bush, charging over and down the crest, we thought that was it and we are about to enter the "drink", wishing I brought something big, adrenaline up and ready to tackle/knife and roll the creature into ocean with me and save the kids.
The creature >
...< Some-one's large newfie-style breed 1.5 kms from nearest beached boat/ humans. 1.5 kms.
Damn near close call and nearly knocked us into treacherous waters. Can't understand how someone would let their "pet"
crash the bush and not be responsible nor attendant. A bad scene.
Always, especially in any Park/Wilderness, BE Responsible. Control the pet.
Still upset about that.
So when some naturalists or photographers or campers are enjoying a secluded cove or bluff
and scenery, realize that this sort of intrusion and disturbance is not acceptable.
YOU assume responsibility for your guests. The way you opened your post alerts me to a non-chalant lais~sez faire approach. Just because you don't see some-one, don't assume... |
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port hardy, b.c.
Canada
26 Posts |
Posted - 08/17/2009 : 8:33 PM
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| if you have a problem with dogs on trails...try another forum...pretty sure this one is for those who enjoy hiking with their dogs.. |
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Posted - 08/17/2009 : 8:39 PM
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| ... bring your dog or another's,{ to a park/wilderness},& if you advertise a business, take responsibility. |
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Qualicum Beach, BC
Canada
1300 Posts |
Posted - 08/17/2009 : 10:12 PM
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I like dogs... at home. If someone feels that they can't be seperated from their pooch, then they need to stay attached via a leash. As well, the owner needs to be responsible for taking care of their pets crap.
If I brought a child on a trip that pushed people off stance, crapped in the middle of the trail, stoled food from campers and snapped at other kids, I would be banned forever from those places.
So you want to bring fido? Then keep him on a leash and put a diaper on him.
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East Vancouver, BC
Canada
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port hardy, b.c.
Canada
26 Posts |
Posted - 08/18/2009 : 10:32 PM
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| That's just for city dogs...north island dogs eat that trail up! |
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Port Moody, BC
Canada
543 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2009 : 07:10 AM
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Originally posted by prother
If I brought a child on a trip that pushed people off stance, crapped in the middle of the trail, stoled food from campers and snapped at other kids, I would be banned forever from those places.
PR
You're comparing the intelligence of your child to one's of a dog? Hmm... |
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Victoria, British Columbia
Canada
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Posted - 08/19/2009 : 08:04 AM
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Originally posted by Arnold
quote:
Originally posted by prother
If I brought a child on a trip that pushed people off stance, crapped in the middle of the trail, stoled food from campers and snapped at other kids, I would be banned forever from those places.
PR
You're comparing the intelligence of your child to one's of a dog? Hmm...
No comparison. Dogs are way more intelligent. |
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Posted - 08/19/2009 : 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by jd22
quote:
Originally posted by Arnold
quote:
Originally posted by prother
If I brought a child on a trip that pushed people off stance, crapped in the middle of the trail, stoled food from campers and snapped at other kids, I would be banned forever from those places.
PR
You're comparing the intelligence of your child to one's of a dog? Hmm...
No comparison. Dogs are way more intelligent.
... I guess if you like being zoned out at age three forever, ha ha ha...
... parents don't let their three year olds run unwatched , unless they themselves haven't left
the age three bracket :p If it is your " child " be a responsible guardian.
... unwatched > http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia/story/2009/08/19/ns-baby-truck-child-protection.html |
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Port Moody, BC
Canada
543 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2009 : 11:00 AM
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Originally posted by jd22
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Originally posted by Arnold
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Originally posted by prother
If I brought a child on a trip that pushed people off stance, crapped in the middle of the trail, stoled food from campers and snapped at other kids, I would be banned forever from those places.
PR
You're comparing the intelligence of your child to one's of a dog? Hmm...
No comparison. Dogs are way more intelligent.
LOL. I would agree a lot of times. |
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Qualicum Beach, BC
Canada
72 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2009 : 12:12 PM
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| I have to say... I have seen far more things along the trails that have pissed me off that fellow humans have done then dogs. This includes crapping along trails, leaving food and garbage as well as trashing the area. Not to mention the fire risk from people who can't live without campfires and think it is okay because nobody can see them. There is alot more disrespect from humans then dogs on trails. Lets face it... the dogs aren't the probelem...it is the disrespectful, irresponsible owners. I don't see a problem with dogs on trails when the owners are responsible for them...just like most of us are for ourselves and our children on trails. I am a pet owner and our dogs come with us when we hike, that is part of our enjoyment. I am a responsible owner and respectful of others and my surroundings. |
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Posted - 08/19/2009 : 2:54 PM
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Originally posted by LKing
I have to say... I have seen far more things along the trails that have pissed me off that fellow humans have done then dogs. This includes crapping along trails, leaving food and garbage as well as trashing the area. Not to mention the fire risk from people who can't live without campfires and think it is okay because nobody can see them. There is alot more disrespect from humans then dogs on trails. Lets face it... the dogs aren't the probelem...it is the disrespectful, irresponsible owners. I don't see a problem with dogs on trails when the owners are responsible for them...just like most of us are for ourselves and our children on trails. I am a pet owner and our dogs come with us when we hike, that is part of our enjoyment. I am a responsible owner and respectful of others and my surroundings.
... sort of right except that dogs possess an autonomous brain conditioned by events and owners and lingering instincts.
And since there people that can't look after babies, there is an even greater occurance of
people that let their pets do what they want. And that is why there are rules and etiquette to cover
parks and wilderness and wildlife protection.
Always makes me sad when a roaming dog's life takes precedence over a cougar/wolf/bear interaction.
Just similar to yesterday's event in Barkeley sound where some fish guide in a boat allowed his dog to roam at some cabin/float setting, got attacked and eaten by cougar. One tough enough and healthy
enough to defend itself from 4 tracking dogs. Still it was sentenced to death because of interaction. I don't think we'll get an unbiased point of view from owner nor officers.
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http://www.globaltvbc.com/Alberni+Valley+cougar+treed+killed/1908522/story.html
Seems even people aren't allowed to object to an unpleasant or rude event without hostility from the owner{s}.
I know someone from a few years back at a wildlife sanctuary observing flocks of waterfowl from a viewing
platform with his children , some food layed out and his viewing optics all out.
Along comes from nowhere two goofus large dogs running up the platform into his kids and equipment. And from just trying to block the dogs and shush-them-off, the redneck owners tried to physically
assault him , kids and all. In a wildlife sanctuary park.
I mean what gives ? What allows people to feel enabled to do that ? Should dog owners start being
self-policing among their own, and stringently abide by park policies ?
There are reasons for these rules.
...cambium.
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Qualicum Beach, BC
Canada
72 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2009 : 5:20 PM
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Originally posted by cambium
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Originally posted by LKing
I have to say... I have seen far more things along the trails that have pissed me off that fellow humans have done then dogs. This includes crapping along trails, leaving food and garbage as well as trashing the area. Not to mention the fire risk from people who can't live without campfires and think it is okay because nobody can see them. There is alot more disrespect from humans then dogs on trails. Lets face it... the dogs aren't the probelem...it is the disrespectful, irresponsible owners. I don't see a problem with dogs on trails when the owners are responsible for them...just like most of us are for ourselves and our children on trails. I am a pet owner and our dogs come with us when we hike, that is part of our enjoyment. I am a responsible owner and respectful of others and my surroundings.
... sort of right except that dogs possess an autonomous brain conditioned by events and owners and lingering instincts.
And since there people that can't look after babies, there is an even greater occurance of
people that let their pets do what they want. And that is why there are rules and etiquette to cover
parks and wilderness and wildlife protection.
Always makes me sad when a roaming dog's life takes precedence over a cougar/wolf/bear interaction.
Just similar to yesterday's event in Barkeley sound where some fish guide in a boat allowed his dog to roam at some cabin/float setting, got attacked and eaten by cougar. One tough enough and healthy
enough to defend itself from 4 tracking dogs. Still it was sentenced to death because of interaction. I don't think we'll get an unbiased point of view from owner nor officers.
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http://www.globaltvbc.com/Alberni+Valley+cougar+treed+killed/1908522/story.html
Seems even people aren't allowed to object to an unpleasant or rude event without hostility from the owner{s}.
I know someone from a few years back at a wildlife sanctuary observing flocks of waterfowl from a viewing
platform with his children , some food layed out and his viewing optics all out.
Along comes from nowhere two goofus large dogs running up the platform into his kids and equipment. And from just trying to block the dogs and shush-them-off, the redneck owners tried to physically
assault him , kids and all. In a wildlife sanctuary park.
I mean what gives ? What allows people to feel enabled to do that ? Should dog owners start being
self-policing among their own, and stringently abide by park policies ?
There are reasons for these rules.
...cambium.
I know there are reasons for the rules and I do abide by park policy and the Cape Scott Park does allow pets. They are to be leashed and owners responsible. It is a recommendation that pets not be on the North Coast trail as it also recommends the hikers be experienced because it is a rough trail. I don't bring my dog when it is a park policy. When we have had bear encounters, and there has been quite a few.... the dog is leashed.We have never had a problem with any wildlife while our pets have been with us, or any problems with other hikers.
It makes me sad and mad when human actions cause the death of wildlife when we do have a brain. Should we all be banned from enjoying nature because some of us can't follow rules(do not feed the wildlife)...not just dog owners? How many Cougar and Bear deaths have been caused by stupid people. It isn't just people with dogs that take away the pleasantness of an outing.
I don't know why some people feel they are the exception to the rule. I have some bad owner/dog tales as well. Why should I have to police another dog owner just because I am a dog owner? But I am a little tired of seeing all dog owners being lumped into the same irresponsible category.
We did the Cape Scott trails last June for 4 nights with the dog and we had a wonderful time. Beautiful!! We are hoping to do the North Coast trail next year and look forward to it. What a wonderful place we live in! Lets all respect it and each other! |
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port hardy, b.c.
Canada
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Posted - 08/19/2009 : 8:44 PM
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Satirical photoshop junkie who frolics in the mountains of the Chilliwack River Valley
Chilliwack, BC
Canada
6895 Posts |
Posted - 08/28/2009 : 08:55 AM
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We recently did the entire NCT with our Chocolate Lab and she had few problems even with her pack on, but then again our dog is well experienced with longer traverses and rough terrain. I wouldn't recommend the NCT for dogs who aren't well experienced with this sort of terrain. I'm not sure who you are water taxi guy, but you don't appear to be exhibiting the same level of professionalism that Jim Witton of North Coast Water Taxi displays.
Cambium, lighten up man.
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Posted - 08/28/2009 : 12:22 PM
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.. I like to lighten up and mellow out at the water's edge, but seems like every other day some one and their pet{s} display rudeness.
Yesterday [again] we are quietly sitting with myself and 5 & 9 year old girls at a pool in
woods, they are strolling in water, I'm am studying my book and photos with food and drink nearby, camera on blanket, eye glasses on mat, then swoosh along rushes two terrier/pitlike dogs
unattended, had to block course of their run, wet with sweat or water, owner 150 meters away.
That is rude, and all too common past few years. I have a right not to be intruded upon,and with equipment layed out, I have the right to say something. But as I noted earlier, it seems people take issue when someone asserts their right to privacy and nondamage to personal equipment and foodstuffs. This person did not apologize and proceeded to linger 250 meters away and allow dogs to run and bark for 1/2 hour. So my planned ability to record a steady stream of
audio music from a chorus of thousands of crickets is maliciuosly OR ignorantly destroyed.
Lighten up , ?, what is my recourse ? While we remain nonintrusive , there is an increasing element of "hikers" that use their dogs to violate other people's privacy. And what of the wildlife ? There WAS an offspring bear nearby I also wished to photo > not to be ! , had to settle for a shot of scat.
Seems to be two main groups of owners ... complying controlled quiet friendly ...or, rude invading and noisy with owners of an equally bad disposition.
I find this particularly unacceptable when this occurs in parks or waterways.
And I do have a right to voice my desire not to be violated this way.
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port hardy, b.c.
Canada
26 Posts |
Posted - 08/29/2009 : 4:23 PM
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Hey Billy
When I am on the water....I am all business,and proud to say I have been running boats all my life without any major mishaps. This on the other hand is a forum where we can exchange information and opinions...and on occassion...the odd ribbing to liven things up a little..I am sorry that you took offense to my comments...but..I do enjoy the lighter side when I am home.....you might want to try it yourself. Geoquote:
Originally posted by BillyGoat
We recently did the entire NCT with our Chocolate Lab and she had few problems even with her pack on, but then again our dog is well experienced with longer traverses and rough terrain. I wouldn't recommend the NCT for dogs who aren't well experienced with this sort of terrain. I'm not sure who you are water taxi guy, but you don't appear to be exhibiting the same level of professionalism that Jim Witton of North Coast Water Taxi displays.
Cambium, lighten up man.
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dog gone it..come see Cape Scott North Coast Trail
