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Calgary, Alberta
Andorra
3791 Posts |
Posted - 01/27/2008 : 5:43 PM
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A quick question to which I can't find the answer for myself.
The second peak of Heart Mountain (the highest one, and long considered its official summit) has recently been officially named something else, with 'Heart Mountain' now officially referring only to the first peak.
Anyone remember the new name? I can't remember, and couldn't find it.
If you have the new GemTrek map (lighter in colour, and paper not tyvek-stuff), I think it's on there.
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Canmore, AB
Canada
1238 Posts |
Posted - 01/27/2008 : 5:47 PM
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| Are you referring to the recently renamed Grant MacEwan peak? |
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Calgary, Alberta
Andorra
3791 Posts |
Posted - 01/27/2008 : 5:58 PM
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| Yes! thank you! I knew I'd know it when i heard it, it just wouldn't come to me. thanks. |
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Calgary, Alberta
Andorra
3791 Posts |
Posted - 01/27/2008 : 6:10 PM
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Now that I know the name, I looked it up on Peakfinder. It says that it was named by the Grant MacEwan Mountain Club in 2006. Anyone know how a hiking club randomly gets to name a peak? (I don't have an issue with this, just curious)
johngenx - do you know anything of this? I seem to remember you may be affiliated with this club? |
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Canmore, AB
Canada
1238 Posts |
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Calgary, Alberta
Andorra
3791 Posts |
Posted - 01/31/2008 : 08:57 AM
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| Ah, more background information. Cool. |
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Abbotsford, BC
Canada
217 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2008 : 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by Rachelo
Now that I know the name, I looked it up on Peakfinder. It says that it was named by the Grant MacEwan Mountain Club in 2006. Anyone know how a hiking club randomly gets to name a peak? (I don't have an issue with this, just curious)
johngenx - do you know anything of this? I seem to remember you may be affiliated with this club?
As a former member of the executive of the Grant MacEwan Mountain Club, I would like to state that the peak was not named randomly. Here's our page from when we were trying to get the peak named: http://www.gmmc.ca/?q=grantmacewanpeak We jumped through all the hoops that the Alberta government required to get the peak named.
And the announcement when it became official: http://www.gmmc.ca/?q=grantmacewanpeakofficial
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Finally stopping that crazy suffering that is ice, climbing to concentrate on great ski tours!
3505 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2008 : 12:45 PM
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Hoops is an understatement. David Wasserman (Pres at the time) got a bee in his bonnet, and he was responsible for a great deal of time and effort to have the peak named in honour of Grant MacEwan. Stubborness paid off in this case.
We did raise some dough for a summit plaque, but the gov't said no to that.
Brian, getting out much? I too am looking at becoming an "ex-Albertan" looking for teaching positions in the Kootenays as we speak (type, actually, not speak) Might keep my GMMC membership though, and jet to the Icefields area to join Millings and the gang for ascents... |
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Abbotsford, BC
Canada
217 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2008 : 1:42 PM
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Originally posted by johngenx
Hoops is an understatement. David Wasserman (Pres at the time) got a bee in his bonnet, and he was responsible for a great deal of time and effort to have the peak named in honour of Grant MacEwan. Stubborness paid off in this case.
We did raise some dough for a summit plaque, but the gov't said no to that.
Brian, getting out much? I too am looking at becoming an "ex-Albertan" looking for teaching positions in the Kootenays as we speak (type, actually, not speak) Might keep my GMMC membership though, and jet to the Icefields area to join Millings and the gang for ascents...
Not getting out as much as I want to John. I did get in a 5 day backpack to Cape Scott, and some day hikes. Family obligations are keeping things to a minimum for now. I'm also pondering taking up Sea Kayaking...no thanks to Nancy. |
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Calgary, Alberta
Andorra
3791 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2008 : 9:07 PM
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Originally posted by brilang
As a former member of the executive of the Grant MacEwan Mountain Club, I would like to state that the peak was not named randomly. Here's our page from when we were trying to get the peak named: http://www.gmmc.ca/?q=grantmacewanpeak We jumped through all the hoops that the Alberta government required to get the peak named.
And the announcement when it became official: http://www.gmmc.ca/?q=grantmacewanpeakofficial
That was not meant offensively. That was actually what I was wondering - I didn't know what it takes to name a peak, but assumed it was probably more than just saying "Hey! We decided to give this peak a name!" |
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Abbotsford, BC
Canada
217 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2008 : 10:36 PM
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| I wasn't offended. Just thought I'd shed some light on the subject :) |
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Calgary, Alberta
Canada
264 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2008 : 08:17 AM
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Question:
If a mountain is defined as the Prominent point of a landmass then why is Heart Mountain a named "Mountain" when it is clearly an outlyer of Grant MacEwan. There is no Saddle between the two (of any significance) and GM is clearly higher than the 'Heart Mountain' peak by nearly 100meters.
It does look like a Heart so I get why the name exists. But surely someone cares about this stuff. Perhaps we need a commission to examine this nationaly important topic, the house of commons should debate it endlessly and a referendum held to decide what is and what isn't a mountain |
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Finally stopping that crazy suffering that is ice, climbing to concentrate on great ski tours!
3505 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2008 : 08:56 AM
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| And they need to create a job where someone spends all of their time climbing these mountains. And it should pay well, after all it would be a patronage appointment. And they should appoint me. |
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Calgary, Alberta
Canada
264 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2008 : 09:20 AM
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All in favor of creating a new position say "Aye".
You couldn't possibly do all the trips on your own.. you would need some help. Perhaps a new Ministry needs to be created. The Ministry of.... (name suggestions)
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Calgary, Alberta
Andorra
3791 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2008 : 11:23 AM
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| I think there should be a committee. All government work needs evaluation committees. I hereby volunteer for this drudgery. :) |
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Calgary, Alberta
Canada
82 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2008 : 9:22 PM
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Originally posted by mapitfirst
Question:
If a mountain is defined as the Prominent point of a landmass then why is Heart Mountain a named "Mountain" when it is clearly an outlyer of Grant MacEwan. There is no Saddle between the two (of any significance) and GM is clearly higher than the 'Heart Mountain' peak by nearly 100meters.
It does look like a Heart so I get why the name exists. But surely someone cares about this stuff. Perhaps we need a commission to examine this nationaly important topic, the house of commons should debate it endlessly and a referendum held to decide what is and what isn't a mountain
Here's my take on the "logic" here: Heart Mountain is that big rock that includes the heart, and Grant MacEwen Peak is one of the two peaks. The other peak has no name!
In the Kananaskis area, the logic of naming is really hard to understand.
Another goofy example is Mount McDougall. The southern-most peak is named Mount McDougall, and sure enough, McDougall Creek drains this. The highest peak is named "Old Baldy". The other three peaks have no official names, but the northern-most is unofficially called "Wasootch Peak". Which is not on "Wasootch Ridge". Well that's not so bad, I guess, because it overlooks Wasootch Creek. But on the side of Wasootch Peak is the McDougall Slabs, even though the slabs are 5 kilometers away from Mount McDougall.
And don't forget, Mount McDougall is not a mountain, it's just a peak, and is not the highest point of the McDougall Massif. Come to that, the McDougall Massif is really a ridge.
Hey! What about Door Jamb Mountain and Loder Peak? And what about Limestone Mountain, which is really an outlier of The Wedge (not Wedge Mountain!) And what about that big outlier of Mt. Romulus that has no name at all?
Argghh! must stop ... must stop ... stop ... |
Edited by - dan2see on 07/14/2008 9:24 PM |
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Canmore, AB
Canada
1238 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2008 : 10:47 PM
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I was up Sheol mountain a few weeks ago and thought it was a weird one.
I mean, it's basically the shoulder of Haddo/Aberdeen and there are several (higher) points along the ridge as you make your way towards it.
It's no wonder the register only contained about 4 parties per year. The first entry was from 1993. |
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737 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2008 : 10:57 PM
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"Aye"
Rachelo: You do the paperwork, johngenx, mapitfirst and I will do the legwork (that is, we'll do the peaks!).
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Edited by - Granticulus on 07/14/2008 10:58 PM |
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Calgary, Alberta
Canada
264 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2008 : 07:50 AM
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I don't know if Rachelo will be happy doing the paper work. Sounds like she likes to get out with the big guns.
We still need a name:
The 'Ministry of Funny Walks' was already used by Monty Python.
Oooh! Look! I have another star! I'm very proud |
Edited by - mapitfirst on 07/15/2008 10:08 AM |
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Posted - 07/16/2008 : 7:21 PM
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| Naming these places after people is one of our most tiresome, tedious habits. |
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Calgary, Alberta
Andorra
3791 Posts |
Posted - 07/17/2008 : 12:08 AM
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ohhh, I feel rejected. :) I'll cover the little peaks while you folks are blazing across the multi-summit days and such.
Congratulations on your new star! :D |
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