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Farmer
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Outward Bound author of the Seinfeld Thread, who builds his own snowshoes

Troy, MT
USA

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 Posted - 10/01/2007 :  8:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply to this posting
is it possible, or will it just end up being too uncomfortable to be worth it. my plan was to snowshoe up burke this winter wearing my DH ski boots (skis on my backpack), and the ski down. I want to see want to take my dog skiing, but don't have AT gear.

TheShadow
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Mysterious, pop can stove stashin', gps totin', overnighter virgin, wannabe tentmaker and foul weather wuss who rides a thumper to the trailhead with wonderdog Max to hike the Chilliwack Valley

Chwk
Canada

4908 Posts

 Posted - 10/01/2007 :  8:44 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you mean DownHill boots, I can't help but think that it will be extremely uncomfortable!
When I used to ski, I had a pair of Salomon SX80 boots that came up mid-calf; they were horrible to walk in, but were they ever nice on the way down!
I guess it depends on how well your boots fit.

If DH doesn't stand for DownHill, just ignore this post entirely!

blackfly
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Manitoba's misadventurin' bushwhackin', dog sloggin', dehydratin', beer drinkin' biggie - who's eager to peak bag Mt Currie in a dress

Squamish
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 Posted - 10/01/2007 :  8:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've done daytrips with guys that just use their dh boots, and they haven't complained too much.

However these are the grizzled, tough, hardy mountain men that legends are written about. Take Willis, for example.

You should try it to find out if you are grizzled and tough too.

time2clmb
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Alberta-based choss climbin', flame throwin', rappel lovin', ass talkin' hater who doesn't like "Gumby" for a descriptor


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 Posted - 10/01/2007 :  9:02 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Of course it's possible...why wouldn't it be? The real question is can you tough out the suck factor.

swebster
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Vancouver, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 10/01/2007 :  9:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If was even possibly considering something like this, I'd just carry my downhill boots up in a pack while wearing real boots and then I'd switch footwear at the top.
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Farmer
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Outward Bound author of the Seinfeld Thread, who builds his own snowshoes

Troy, MT
USA

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 Posted - 10/01/2007 :  9:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think I'll try it and throw my boots in my pack just in case. yes, DH stands for downhill. and anyone who has ever played basketball for coach chambers (either at fox, centenial way back when, or at sfu/ubc in the last few years), you know how tough someone has to be to survive a season with him as a coach.

Lupin
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Ladner, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 10/01/2007 :  9:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i use dh boots for AT
my boots don't fit right to begin with so i get some nice blisters going up in them.

if it's a hike up/ski down then i'd have no problem carrying the DH boots.
A little extra weight on the pack going down makes it more fun =)

tedoliver
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Vancouver, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 10/01/2007 :  9:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's possible but i wouldn't recommend it.Why not just rent touring gear and save yourself the trouble of lugging up hiking boots and snow shoes?Also recommend finding out if you're tough and grizzled before setting out.
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darrenbell
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Penhold, Alberta
Canada

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 Posted - 10/02/2007 :  05:05 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey Farmer, it's possible for sure, but why torture yourself. What ever footwear you use for snowshoeing will be much more comfortable than d/h boots. I've tried both way's while bagging fresh tracks at Parker's Ridge(icefield parkway)years back, and the soft boot gets my vote hands down!
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AcesHigh
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Hope, BC
Canada

7093 Posts

 Posted - 10/02/2007 :  07:26 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It almost sounds funny wearing downhill boots to scale the mountain.
I am just trying to picture it (As mentioned lots do already)...

pmicheals
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Richmond, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 10/02/2007 :  07:54 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Make sure your side load straps are secure and strong;then attach the skis with boots in place to the sides of your pack. Unless they're AT boots with vibram soles, the logging road is going to chew the crap out of your soles and subsequent anti-friction performance at the toe piece becomes an issue.

That being said, There are many time where we used to run out of snow, crank down the top buckles, crank up the bottom buckles and go. It's not that uncomfortable.

Edited by - pmicheals on 10/02/2007 07:54 AM

Dax
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Port Moody, BC
Canada

733 Posts

 Posted - 10/02/2007 :  08:25 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by swebster

If was even possibly considering something like this, I'd just carry my downhill boots up in a pack while wearing real boots and then I'd switch footwear at the top.



What he said.

bheaps
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the road
557 Posts

 Posted - 10/02/2007 :  09:09 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Im not sure if youre familiar with matier - joffre, anniversary glacier, flavelle hut, cerise creek, whatever. But I packed all that gear in from the road and then proceeded to climb up matier carrying all of it. It was a bit slower, but after a while I got used to it.
Took about 4 hours from the hut to summit. July this year

http://www.clubtread.com/sforum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=22575



A couple yeara ago I tried the same thing at wedgemount. Took me 6 hours to get to the hut! it was pretty rough. and the next day was all fogged in

http://www.clubtread.com/sforum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=16429

shrubhugger
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Vancouver, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 10/02/2007 :  10:02 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Farmer, you may be tough, but I doubt you're grizzled yet. (If you were, your dh ski boots would be leather, and you wouldn't seek the opinions of a bunch of geeks sitting in front of the computer anyway.) Check it out. Experiment. And then tell us how it went.
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Dru
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Sardonic sandbagging scoundrel, Cascade Climbers lobotomized spraymeister, space blanket flyer, new millennium vulgarian betaboy and friend to all squids

Climbing, a mountain
Canada

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 Posted - 10/02/2007 :  10:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'd pay special attention to pmichaels' comment about the soles getting chewed up. That's the reason AT boots have a real sole.

bheaps
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the road
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 Posted - 10/02/2007 :  11:21 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yea definitely take a pair of shoes as well

spicytuna
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Canmore, AB
Canada

1238 Posts

 Posted - 10/02/2007 :  1:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Farmer

is it possible, or will it just end up being too uncomfortable to be worth it. my plan was to snowshoe up burke this winter wearing my DH ski boots (skis on my backpack), and the ski down. I want to see want to take my dog skiing, but don't have AT gear.



If you're ever looking into replacing your boots, you may want to check out the Garmont Adrenaline's or Endorphins. They're AT boots so they're a little more comfortable and much lighter than DH boots. They also have interchangable soles so you can use them with your DH skis. You can also replace the hiking soles when/if they get worn down.

bheaps
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the road
557 Posts

 Posted - 10/02/2007 :  2:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
price of AT gear and powder skis is way inflated in my opinion. anyone else agree with me on that?

swebster
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Vancouver, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 10/02/2007 :  2:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bheaps

price of AT gear and powder skis is way inflated in my opinion. anyone else agree with me on that?



Isn't it the same as new high-end downhill equipment? There just isn't enough market for there to be budget gear like there is for downhill stuff.

bheaps
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the road
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 Posted - 10/02/2007 :  2:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yea but with downhill skis you can buy models that are 5 yeras old for like a hundred bucks. you cant pull that with the AT gear, Ive found.
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Dru
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Sardonic sandbagging scoundrel, Cascade Climbers lobotomized spraymeister, space blanket flyer, new millennium vulgarian betaboy and friend to all squids

Climbing, a mountain
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 Posted - 10/02/2007 :  3:15 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You can put AT bindings on $5 skis from the thrift store.
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