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ge-an_bas
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North Vancouver, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 05/30/2006 :  1:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply to this posting
Hi,

In Europe (Switserland/Austria are the countries I know) there is a very nice selection of mountain huts. Some of them easily reachable and some only for "real" climbers. It's sometimes even possible to do a multiday tour going from hut to hut (often the "real" mountain huts since it involves glacier travel).

Both the easy and "real" huts are interesing for me. We have a 2.5 year old son (and another on the way), and I would love to take him to an easy hut (i'm pretty sure the won't cause trouble for the other people in the hut)..
Not having Grandma/Grandpa around means less days that we can go out without him, but we sometimes manage.. For that the "real" huts are interesting..

In the "Huts, locks and reservations" topic ScottN posted a nice overview of the huts. I started Googling all of them to find out how easily they can be reached, where they are etc. But Google can tell you only so much.. I would be interested in your experience:
- How long does it take you to get there (from where)
- How technical is the route to it
- Are there other huts you can reach from there

I'll try to put all the information together in the empty post below this one. I'll update what I have tonight. Hopefully it can serve as a good resource for other people as well.

/Edit Jan07: Finally finished an updated overview with Pics. PDF available from: http://www.brijn.nu/Overview%20of%20huts_20070111.pdf

Tx,
Bas

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Edited by - ge-an_bas on 01/11/2007 9:06 PM

ge-an_bas
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North Vancouver, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 05/30/2006 :  1:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
GPS coordinates in WGS84, Deg Lat/Lon

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Hut listing, last change 31-05-2006
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* Batchelor Cabin
Access: Reservation, 10$ feed
Time: 1-2h
Terrain: 2.5km
Size: 12
Owner: BC Parks, Managed by Tetrahedron Outdoor Club, http://www.tetoutdoor.ca/
URL: http://www.vcn.bc.ca/tetout/Tet.Information.htm
Remarks: A popular loop route runs from the parking lot to Edwards Lake and then returns via the cabin at Bachelor Lake

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Brew Hut
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Access: no lock, no reservations, 5$ fee
Time: ?
Size: 12-15
Owner: VOC, http://www.ubc-voc.com/wiki/Huts
URL: http://www.ubc-voc.com/wiki/Brew_Hut
GPS: 50.040222 / -123.189861
Route: http://trail.brijn.nu/showmap.php?mapWRT=529

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Brian Waddington Hut
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Access: no lock, no reservations, 5$ fee
Time: 3-4
Size: 20
Owner: VOC, http://www.ubc-voc.com/wiki/Huts
URL: http://www.ubc-voc.com/wiki/Brian_Waddington_Hut
GPS: 50.630972 / -122.678388

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Burton (aka Sphinx) Hut
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Access: no lock, no reservations, 5$ fee
Time: ?
Terrain: Summer access requires walking around the Lake, usually via Black Tusk Meadows, over the Helm Glacier to Gentian Pass, and then bushwacking down from Gentian Pass to the hut. Mid winter access is generally straightforward. Ski / Snowshoe the well used trail up to Garibaldi Lake (9km) and then continue across the frozen lake to the hut (4km)
Size: 10
Owner: VOC, http://www.ubc-voc.com/wiki/Huts
URL: http://www.ubc-voc.com/wiki/Burton_Hut
GPS: ?

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Cayoosh emergency shelter
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?

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Edwards Cabin
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Access: Reservation, 10$ feed
Time: 2-3h
Terrain: 4.5km
Size: 12
Owner: BC Parks, Managed by Tetrahedron Outdoor Club, http://www.tetoutdoor.ca/
URL: http://www.vcn.bc.ca/tetout/Tet.Information.htm
Remarks: A popular loop route runs from the parking lot to Edwards Lake and then returns via the cabin at Bachelor Lake

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Elfin Hut
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Access: no lock, no reservations
Owner: BC Park, http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/bcparks/explore/parkpgs/garibald.html
URL: http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/bcparks/explore/parkpgs/garibald/diamond.html
Time: 3-6hrs
Terrain: Very easy well maintained trail, located 11 km from the parking lot
Size: ~34
Remarks: Heated

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Elsay Lake Hut/Cabin
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URL: http://www.clubtread.com/sforum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14089

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Emma Lake hut/cabin
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?

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Golden Ears emergency shelter
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URL: http://www.clubtread.com/articledetail.asp?ID=24
GPS: 49.366666 / -122.5015

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Harrison Hut
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Access: no lock, no reservations, 5$ fee
Time: ?
Size: 15
Owner: VOC, http://www.ubc-voc.com/wiki/Huts
URL: http://www.ubc-voc.com/wiki/Harrison_Hut
GPS: ?

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Henrietta Lake cabin
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Remarks: hard to reach now Woodfibre ferry is not running
URL: http://flickr.com/photos/seawallrunner/sets/262213/

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Himmelsback Hut
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Access: no lock, no reservations
Terrain: Whistler Village to Singing Pass - Length, 11.5 km, ele change 1,000 metres / Singing Pass to Russet Lake - Length, 3 km, 250m ele change
Time: 4-6h
Size: ~10
Owner: BC Parks
Url: http://www.ubc-voc.com/wiki/Himmelsbach_Hut
Url: http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/bcparks/explore/parkpgs/garibald/singing.html

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Jim Haberl Hut
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Access: locked, reservations, 25$ fee (15$ for ACC)
Owner: ACC, Vancouver Section, http://www.aebc.com/acc/index.asp
URL: http://www.aebc.com/acc/huts.asp

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Kallahne Cabin
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Size: 4
URL: http://canadianmountainencyclopedia.com/FtrPg.asp?rq=Pg&FtrId=182
GPS: 49.538 / -123.212

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Keith's Hut
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Access: no lock, no resevervations. 10$ fee/night
Owner: Flavelle Family, Scott Flavelle
Time: 1.5 to 3
Terrain: Easy trail
Size: Very big might sleep a couple dozen

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Lizzie Lake Cabin
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?

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Lost Lake Shelter/Cabin
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See Kallahne Cabin

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Magnesia Meadows Emergency Shelter
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?

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McGillivray Pass Lodge
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Owner: Whitecap Resorts Ltd
URL: http://www.whitecapalpine.ca/index.php
Size: 12
Price: 875$/person/week (self guided / self catered)
GPS: 50.677777 / -122.573333

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McNair
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Access: Reservation, 10$ feed
Time: 4-6h
Terrain: 9.5km
Size: 12
Owner: BC Parks, Managed by Tetrahedron Outdoor Club, http://www.tetoutdoor.ca/
URL: http://www.vcn.bc.ca/tetout/Tet.Information.htm
Remarks: A popular loop route runs from the parking lot to Edwards Lake and then returns via the cabin at Bachelor Lake

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Mountain Lake Hut
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Access: no lock, reservations accepted but not required
Time: 3h
Terrain: Gated logging road from Furry Creek Golf Course (Key available). Summer: 13km drive plus 3 hour hike.
Owner: BCMC, http://bcmc.ca/index.asp
URL: http://bcmc.ca/huts/hutinfo.asp
Size: 10
Remarks: Minimal reservation 6. Not usually used during summer

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Mt Alpen snowmobile cabin
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?

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North Creek Hut
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Access: locked, reservations
Terrain: Summer: North Creek logging road from Lillooet Forest Service Road. Winter: Helicopter from Pemberton
Owner: BCMC, http://bcmc.ca/index.asp
URL: http://bcmc.ca/huts/hutinfo.asp
Size: 18
Remarks: Minimal reservation 10. Not usually used during summer

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Pebble Creek Hut
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Access: no lock, reservations

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Snowspider Cabin
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Size: 4
URL: http://www.bivouac.com/FtrPg.asp?FtrId=957
GPS: 50.343804 / -122.462778

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Spruce Lake cabin
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?

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Steele Cabin
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Access: Reservation, 10$ feed
Time: 4-6h
Terrain: 7.5km
Size: 12
Owner: BC Parks, Managed by Tetrahedron Outdoor Club, http://www.tetoutdoor.ca/
URL: http://www.vcn.bc.ca/tetout/Tet.Information.htm
Remarks: A popular loop route runs from the parking lot to Edwards Lake and then returns via the cabin at Bachelor Lake

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Tantalus Hut
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Access: locked, reservations

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Taylor Pass emergency shelter
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?

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Tenquille Lake emergency shelter
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?

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Wedgemount Hut
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Access: no lock, no reservations
Owner: BC Parks,
URL: http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/bcparks/explore/parkpgs/garibald/wedgemt.html
Time: 4 to 6hrs
Terrain: Very steep rugged trail, 7km, 1200m height gain
Size: 4-5

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Wendy Thompson Hut
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Access: no lock, reservations, $12 ($10 for ACC)
Time:?
Terrain: Really nice hut, in a beautiful location. Easy trail to follow, not too difficult
Size: 16
Owner: ACC Whistler, http://accwhistler.ca/
URL: http://accwhistler.ca/hut.html
GPS: 50.430 / -122.474 (est from map)

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West Harrison Lookout
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?

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Windy Joe Lookout
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?

Edited by - ge-an_bas on 05/31/2006 8:58 PM
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Jeffster
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 Posted - 05/30/2006 :  1:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Only been to 3 of them.

Wedgemount 2.5 to 4hrs very steep rugged trail not locked no reservations but small sleeps 4 or 5 upstairs.

Keith's hut 1.5 to 3 hrs easy trail not locked no res but I think a $10.00 fee per night is required. Very big might sleep a couple dozen.

Elfin 3-6hrs very easy well maintained trail. not locked to res but $10.00 fee. It's heated and sleeps around 30

Edited by - Jeffster on 05/30/2006 1:28 PM

scottN
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Vancouver, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 05/30/2006 :  2:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For the VOC Huts (Brew, Brian Waddington, Sphinx and Harrison) all the information you are looking for is available at http://www.ubc-voc.com/wiki/Huts . If you have an account then http://www.bivouac.com also has the information for all of these huts as well. Also check out the BCMC website for info on North Creek and Mountain Lake: http://www.bcmc.ca. ACC whistler website for Wendy Thompson Hut is http://accwhistler.ca/hut.html , and the ACC vancouver site http://www.aebc.com/acc/huts.asp has info on the Jim Haberl and Wendy Thompson Hut. Elfin, Wedgemount and Himmelsback are run by BC Parks : http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/bcparks/explore/parkpgs/garibald.html

I've been to all of the above huts, expect for North Creek, Mountain Lake and then new Harberl Hut.


Edited by - scottN on 05/30/2006 2:03 PM

Sharon
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Whistler
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 Posted - 05/30/2006 :  2:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
These are NOTHING like the huts in Europe. I love both types of huts but they are very different experiences. Maybe do a day hike to Elfin lakes to see that hut, it is Mercedes compared to most huts here. Very basic compared to what you are used to in Europe.

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shrubhugger
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Vancouver, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 05/30/2006 :  2:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You might want to add the easy access huts in Tetrahedron provincial park on the Sunshine Coast.
http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/bcparks/explore/parkpgs/tetra.html
They're maintained by the Tetrahedron Outdoor Club:
http://www.tetoutdoor.ca/
Their site is the place to look for maps, costs and related info.
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Dru
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 Posted - 05/30/2006 :  2:19 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are a couple of other huts, mountain shelters, lookouts etc. not on Scott's list.

Off the top of my head -

Henrietta Lake cabin (hard to reach now Woodfibre ferry is not running)
Mt Alpen snowmobile cabin
Windy Joe Lookout in Manning Park
West Harrison Lookout - west side of Harrison Lake
Snowspider Cabin
Lizzie Lake Cabin
Magnesia Meadows Emergency Shelter
Kallahnie Cabin

There are also private (commercial) cabins or lodges such as the ones in Cathedral Park and McGillivray Pass.

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Jeffster
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 Posted - 05/30/2006 :  2:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There's a hut close to Sphinx bay, can't remember the name perhaps Sphinx hut?
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 Posted - 05/30/2006 :  2:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe worth including the hut at Emma Lake outside of Powell River as well. I believe there is supposed to be one up at the Knuckleheads (same part of the world) that is also public, but my information may be old. The Emma hut was quite nice when I was there, and was unlocked, accessible by approximately 3 hours of hiking (partly in the dark, I might add) and didn't require reservations at the time. This may have changed more recently-I know there have been several CT'ers up there more recently than I.

scottN
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 Posted - 05/30/2006 :  2:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jeffster

There's a hut close to Sphinx bay, can't remember the name perhaps Sphinx hut?



That would be the Burton Hut.


Edited by - scottN on 05/30/2006 2:37 PM

Shadee
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 Posted - 05/30/2006 :  2:44 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Doubt I'd take a 2.5 year old to the Burton Hut. When I was there in winter it was very cold at night, so I slept in the tent. We crossed Garibaldi lake (when it was frozen of course!). Not sure of the summer route to get there, I've heard it's routefinding or bushwacking.

Wendy Thompson hut would be a great destination with a little one, really nice hut, in a beautiful location. Easy trail to follow, not too difficult. I did it with my daughter last fall, she was just about 9 years old, and managed very well.

ge-an_bas
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 Posted - 05/30/2006 :  2:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
@ScottN: Thank you for all the links. I had found several (the VOC pages are nice!) but not the the others.. I would just like to provide an overview here. An easy starting point

@Sharon. So I noticed, I wonder why? Longer climbing history? More money in the Alpine Clubs/Associations (almost all of the european huts are run bu the Alpine Clubs).. I'll see if I've got some pics from nice huts in Europe, just to show for people who don't know the difference. When typing the comment below I just realized that there also is a substantial price difference.. I one night stay in a hut could easily cost 50 dollars (including food, not drinks). especially in Switserland (expensive!)

@All, Will add all your info when I get home.. I will probably include commercial huts as well. So any pointers to those would be welcome

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 Posted - 05/30/2006 :  2:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

There are also glaciology huts at sentinel Bay and at Place Glacier.

quote:
So I noticed, I wonder why? Longer climbing history? More money in the Alpine Clubs/Associations (almost all of the european huts are run bu the Alpine Clubs).. I'll see if I've got some pics from nice huts in Europe, just to show for people who don't know the difference. When typing the comment below I just realized that there also is a substantial price difference.. I one night stay in a hut could easily cost 50 dollars (including food, not drinks). especially in Switserland (expensive!)



In BC we have the concept of wilderness being non-commercial. The European huts offer levels of service more like a small hotel or hostel whereas a North American hut is more like a large tent you don't have to carry yourself.

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Edited by - Dru on 05/30/2006 2:59 PM
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Jeffster
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 Posted - 05/30/2006 :  3:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shadee

Doubt I'd take a 2.5 year old to the Burton Hut. .




Ahhh common Shadee it's not that far.

ge-an_bas
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 Posted - 05/30/2006 :  3:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dru
In BC we have the concept of wilderness being non-commercial. The European huts offer levels of service more like a small hotel or hostel whereas a North American hut is more like a large tent you don't have to carry yourself.



Out of curriosity, is that also government policy. Ie now permits for something else?

I just found this page: http://www.canadatrails.ca/lodging/ldgbc.html and noticed that there is not much between "free" huts and extremely high end things..

Bas

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ge-an_bas
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 Posted - 05/30/2006 :  3:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jeffster

quote:
Originally posted by Shadee

Doubt I'd take a 2.5 year old to the Burton Hut. .



Ahhh common Shadee it's not that far.



No doubt she would get him/her there.. But do you know how hard it is to move a 2.5yr old that is frozen solid!? :)

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Edited by - ge-an_bas on 05/30/2006 3:29 PM
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Jeffster
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Port Moody, B.C
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 Posted - 05/30/2006 :  3:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I hope nobody here does.

I seems by the huts mentioned you aren't only intrested in ones you can bring a 2.5 year old to. If so then my bad.

Shadee
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 Posted - 05/30/2006 :  3:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jeffster

quote:
Originally posted by Shadee

Doubt I'd take a 2.5 year old to the Burton Hut. .




Ahhh common Shadee it's not that far.



well I'd be sure to make a real trip of it and bag castle towers on the way

ge-an_bas
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North Vancouver, BC
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 Posted - 05/30/2006 :  3:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jeffster

I hope nobody here does.

I seems by the huts mentioned you aren't only intrested in ones you can bring a 2.5 year old to. If so then my bad.


:-)

You are correct, i'm interested in all huts

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threeprime
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 Posted - 05/30/2006 :  3:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shadee

Doubt I'd take a 2.5 year old to the Burton Hut. Not sure of the summer route to get there, I've heard it's routefinding or bushwacking.



Couple years ago we went in via Helm Glacier, into Gentian pass and down to the lake. Offtrail and some bushwhacking. Mosquitoes were bad but the horsefiles were the worst

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Edited by - threeprime on 05/30/2006 6:12 PM
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Dru
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 Posted - 05/30/2006 :  4:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mosquitoes and horseflies are dead after mid-September

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