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LongShadow
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Big pack hiker who sleeps with bears in tent and falls on slippery logs

Langley, BC
Canada

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 Posted - 04/10/2006 :  7:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply to this posting
Shadowchaser and I are in the process of developing a new trail system for CT. We have already pooled lots of our own ideas to make it easier to find things, submit your own data, and link to TR's. The purpose of this thread is to get ideas for features and information that will make the system most useful to you. We'll have a first cut out soon. Let me know what features you'd like to see and we'll try to fit it into an upcoming release.

Cheers!
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Dru
Mountain Grammar Police

Sardonic sandbagging scoundrel, Cascade Climbers lobotomized spraymeister, space blanket flyer, new millennium vulgarian betaboy and friend to all squids

Climbing, a mountain
Canada

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 Posted - 04/10/2006 :  7:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I do not commonly take a GPS unit hiking with me. Whatever waypoint system you come up with, please keep it inclusive, so that non-GPS ers like me can still post TRs, especially to destinations that may not be in the CT database at the time we do them, without being forced to enter a bunch of waypoints with false precision.

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ShadowChaser
GPS Geek

Trail cuttin, GPS packin bushwhacker, wiki hike compilin, who is now Hope-less


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 Posted - 04/10/2006 :  7:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dru

I do not commonly take a GPS unit hiking with me. Whatever waypoint system you come up with, please keep it inclusive, so that non-GPS ers like me can still post TRs, especially to destinations that may not be in the CT database at the time we do them, without being forced to enter a bunch of waypoints with false precision.



Waypoints definately will not be forced on either TR's or trails. Right now the GPS data is only used for two things:
* To display a list of "nearby trails" for a specific hike
* To display a list of waypoints.

You're right about GPS precision - but it's still more accurate than guessing the locations of waypoints a long a trail using distances (more people carry GPS receivers than a spool of string :-)

Are you interested in adding non GPS-waypoints, or just Trails & TRs without waypoints?
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Dru
Mountain Grammar Police

Sardonic sandbagging scoundrel, Cascade Climbers lobotomized spraymeister, space blanket flyer, new millennium vulgarian betaboy and friend to all squids

Climbing, a mountain
Canada

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 Posted - 04/10/2006 :  7:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No, when I go hiking or climbing, I don't usually even take a map.

When I come home, I open up the provincial basemap from http://maps.gov.bc.ca and size the map to the appropriate scale to fit on the screen, take a screenshot of the screen, and draw on the route line freehand using a graphic editor.

It's pretty easy to pull some waypoints off the Basemap as it tells you the exact lat-long of your cursor. But I usually only do this if someone asks for them.

An over-requirement for waypoints, is one of the reasons I don't write many TRs for bivouac.com anymore. It became too much of a hassle for no appreciable benefit.

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Farmer
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Outward Bound author of the Seinfeld Thread, who builds his own snowshoes

Troy, MT
USA

3121 Posts

 Posted - 04/10/2006 :  7:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
but, if they sold overpriced stirng on west brodway, and said that you just left it out behind you so you can find your wawy back, eveyone would

especially if you put a nike logo on it

LongShadow
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Big pack hiker who sleeps with bears in tent and falls on slippery logs

Langley, BC
Canada

7647 Posts

 Posted - 04/10/2006 :  8:31 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The GPS aspect is only a bonus. If we get the data, then great. I suspect it will get added over time anyway. The main thing will be to start adding the trails once it is in place. The other aspect is that people can contribute additional information once a trail has been added as well. So you don't have to know everything about a trail to submit data.

As ShadowChaser notes, the GPS data is only used for things like the nearby trails, listing coordinates of various points of interest (including trailheads), and also for a trail locator by city/postal code distance/radius.
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